i think im lucky........my walmart carrys GOOD cheap loads....i can get 1 1/8th oz 12ga loads for 14 something for 100rds......the federals had justa cup wad and i know they are teh cheap ones....the remington sportsmans claimed to have the power piston was or whatever...fired and and found the wad.....sure enough it was one of their decint wads.....they all shoot at about 1200fps....so this time i found shurshot heavy dove loads....they are just loaded a little hotter and fly a little faster......and i spent an extra buck or 2....and i can feel it on the shoulder more lol.......if you look you may find pretty good CHEAP loads....took me a while.....i was like i dont want 7/8oz loads or id shoot a 20ga!! dad doesnt understand why he cant kill squirrels past 20 yds no matter what choke he uses...but there he is buying a box of shells for 2 something a box......7/8 oz loads........he says it doesnt matter......and thought i was crazy buying sts and AA to small game hunt with...this last year i went really crazy and bought highbrass loads......thats all i use for anything bigger then a dove now......10 bucks a box....but i know when i hit something im busting it!i shot so many pheasants last year and wounded them and lost them because i dont have a dog or anything.......shooting sts and AAs.....i dropped tons of pheasants with them loads over a dog......but i was closer in and everything too......buy the shells you can do the job with......

mauser06 -my 28 guage really likes those highbrass #6's 1 oz. however i was paying $16 a box. when they hit something you know it is down. killed so many crows with that little gun it is unreal.

killer243,

I still dont understand how you figure I sounded jealous, And I didnt call him stupid directly I said the comment he made makes him sound stupid.

I don't really know why everyone is jumping on DesertWolf. In my opinion, IN MY OPINION, If i had spent that much on a gun, I would never use it for anything but shooting trap, but thats just what i would do. Why spend that much on shells when, unless your an awesome shot, your going to waste as many shells as you hit birds with. I read in some magazine that the average dove hunter shoots about 8 times for each dove killed. If you got the money to spend on those shells, go for it, but maybe some guys don't buy the really expensive shells so I don't think that stalker had not have to say that he only uses fioochi instead of the walmart shells. It was like he was just saying that unless you pay 20 bucks a box you are just buying junky shells. I don't know...I just think that stalker could have just said that he uses fioochi and left out the part about not using certain shells.

DuckHuntin247,

thats basically the point I was trying to make, perhaps I came off a just a little bit harsh. But I cant stand people who are snoody and basically say the equipment I use is junk, just because its cheap its automatically no good for them. People like that just peave the hell out of me.

To answer the initial question, I shoot a Remington 1100 LT 20 and (cheap) Remington Heavy Dove loads, #7-1/2 or #8.

I do okay, and am happy with the combination.

I use12 gauge "Beretta S55".
With trap ammo and "Sellier& Bellot" betwen 1.7and2.5mm loads.
Note: Shooting range betwin 15 and 40 m.

Benelli Camoflauged Nova (cheap.... $250)

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Winchester Dove Load 7 1/2 and 1 1/8 oz. ($3.75 per box)
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= Lots of dead doves for a reasonable price

Winchester Ranger 20ga. pump Winchester Dove Load 7 1/2 and 1 1/8 oz. ($3.75 per box) I like the best as well.

anyone know where I can get some of those dove decoys that you hang on utility lines with monofilament fishing line??
Seen them around but can't find them online anywhere..
thanks!

Winchester 1300 Speedpump 20gauge