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Old 05-28-2008 | 10:43 AM
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Matt and I both have the same identical guns and are shooting the same choke/load combo. I finally put a pattern on paper at 40 yards this last weekend but haven't taken the time to count the pellets yet. My barrel had a bore snake through it before the shot so it was somewhat clean, so I'm guessing it was somewhere around 180-220 pellets in there.

I know itdropped my tom at 42 yards without even a flop earlier this year, and I have no doubt it's probably going to get it done every time out to 55ish yards or so.
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Old 05-28-2008 | 12:48 PM
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So how are the Indian Creeks so much better??

Would the tight wad or a hastings do the job?
You can definitely get 200 pellets in a 10" circle. The Indian Creek and Hevi-13 combo is consistenly producing these results for several different shooters. The Hastings or the TightWad will produce good results as well, but they may or may not produce the counts that the IC and the H13 combo produces. I also believe that you can contact Indian Creek and tell them the gun you shoot and they can help you get a good combination...
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Old 05-28-2008 | 05:33 PM
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Ok thanks guys....I really apprecaite it

Matt And Rick james I also shoot a Rem 870 Supermag which is what u shoot i beleive but if i dont really have the money to go with a 70 dollar choke just yet but is it really worth it or could i get just about as good results with a differnt maybe less expensive combo since i really have a hard time spending 20$ on 5 shells....
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Old 05-28-2008 | 06:17 PM
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I saw this and i cant beleive it!
I don't know about 200 pellets in a 10" circle at 40 yards.... but I know about 207 pellets in a 10" circle at 40 yards.





Some of the guys consistantly putting over 200 at 40 yards are using that 4x5x7 stuff.. which basically uses #7 hevi as a buffer... when you have over 500 pellets in a shell... 200 ain't that many. Ain't really such a thing as cheating... but it skews the results a bit. Its spendy... but its nasty stuff.

That pattern in the picture is my Mossberg 835 with a Pure Gold .670 choke tube shooting Hevi-13 3.5" #6s.... and the kicker... its only 1 3/4oz of shot... thats about 375 pellets... with over 200 of those 375 in a 10" circle... do the math..... if the 2 1/4oz loads shoot % wise at tight as the 1 3/4oz loads do.... then it could very well get up around 240+ inside 10".
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Old 05-28-2008 | 08:19 PM
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Sorry guys, camera is out in the car and I don't feel like running out to get it right now. I counted it up though and ended up with 193 pellets in 10". The wind was also blowing pretty good when I shot this and most of the pattern seemed to be on the left side of the paper, since it was only a 12" piece of paper I'm assuming I didn't catch the most dense section of the pattern as well. I'm guessing if I would have gotten the 10" circle centered on the most dense section it was well over 200 pellets.

This is the D1ck's Sporting Goods specific Super Mag with the Shur-Shot stock and 23" ribbed barrel, Indian Creek BDS .665 choke, and the new Hevi-13 3.5"/2.25oz #6's. The barrel was somewhat clean when this pattern was shot, it was swabbed once with a bore snake. I might polish it a bit and see what it can do off a bench with no wind and a larger target to catch the most dense 10" section.


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Old 05-30-2008 | 03:36 PM
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I can get 200 out of my old 11-87 sps-t shooting the old white hull Hevi 13 #5. So it can be done.
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Old 05-30-2008 | 07:12 PM
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Bullshooter, what kind of choke are you shooting?

were u shooting 3" or 3.5"?

Thanks!
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Old 05-30-2008 | 08:18 PM
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I have an 11-87 and use the primos jellyhead choke, I shoot Hevi-13 3.5in #6's and get 180 pellets in 10" at 40 yds.. There is better but that is pretty decent.. I don't want it too tight anyway personally... If it's too darn tight if ya get one at 10 yards it's like shooting a slug at the neck.. lol Can be done though.. Even at that I've never shot a tom over about 35 yards or maybe 40.. But they never move that's for sure..

Looks like bullshooter is using a mad max choke, another quality choke..

I have sold several remington chokes this year but I have these left if you want to try any of them.

(Rem Choke) Remington[/b], Turkey Super Full (extended turkey choke) 15.00
(Rem Choke) Remington[/b], Turkey/Predator (extended turkey/coyote choke) 15.00
(Rem Choke) Hastings,[/b] .660 choke (extended turkey choke) 20.00[/ul]
BUT... I would spend a few extra bucks and buy something that seems to be working for many others. May save ya some money in the long run.

Buy a jellyhead or an indian creek choke, buy some Hevi 13 shells or Nitroshells and shoot it again.. 10 pellets in a 10 in circle at 40 yds is not too great for turkey's...
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Old 05-30-2008 | 08:22 PM
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Ok...well i have been readin lots of reviews and the truglo chokes seem to have a lot of 5 stars but are those chokes that i shouldnt mess with or are they fine?

I am really looking for something that will pattern good and will drop a tom at 50 yards without busting my wallet.....any ideas?
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Old 05-31-2008 | 12:25 PM
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I saw this and i cant beleive it! Id really really like to know how you guys are doing this because we patterned my cousins shotgun with remington steel shot out of a full choke in his ruger and at 40 yards there was probly 10 pellets in a 10 inch circle at 40 yards? Im sure that kind of a pattern sucks but id REALLY like to know how you guys are getting that good of patterns?

I shoot an 870 supermag and id like to know what chokes and shot combo to try?

Thanks!

(i was thinking bout buying the primos Tight Wad but now im not sure because i havent heard this good of results out of it....)
You can and will indeed get incredible patterns from todays custom turkey guns topped with the best of the best after-market chokes. I should stress that it is very important to buy the better chokes though and add to this equation you MUST select THE best turkey loads available. This doesn't mean that you'll be able to pick up any load and then a middle of the road choke and expect similar results.

It's been my experience that the majority of times this means that you will be shooting HEVI-SHOT Hevi-13 loads and an Indian Creek, Black Diamond Strike custom choke.

Black Diamond Strike choke....



On the right is a typical target withWinchester XX Mag Turkey loads,..... while the target on the right is the SAME gun (T/C Encore)with the 3" 2oz #6 Hevi-13 and custom choke..... as you can see, the difference in ammo alone is shocking! [:-]



These changes have made for one seriously wicked turkey gun that can still be handled well by my 12 year old Daughter.




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