This is my first year usingHeavy-13 shells but manthey patterned good out of my little short barreled Mossberg Tactical Turkey gun with a Jellyhead choke. Maybe not great by Nitro standards but Heavy-13 number 6's will put about 77 pellets in a 10 inch circle at 40 yards with good evenly spread density. That certainly won't win any still target contests but it's pretty darn good for a shotgun with a 20 inch barrel. And no turkey head stands a chance at that distance. The two birds I've shot with it this year didn't even flop.

I shot some hevi 13 6 shot out of my mossberg/Indian creek gun last weekend and will never buy that particular shell again. Terrible pattern at 40+ yards. My winchester 6 shot out performed the HV. Now I've read the new HV 6 shot is worse than the older. Can't remember the colors of the shells, but the older ones were the bomb. I had the newer ones. I still might try some 3.5's and see if that makes a difference, but for now I'm gonna try the winchester extended range 6 shot.

Titleist

I once had a few of the "older" white Hevi-13 shells that shot great. They have a cult following over on the NWTF board. For some reason the "newer" ones don't seem to perform as well. Environ came out with a 3.5", 2.25 oz load in 2007 but it was very hard to find and I was never able to get my hands on any. I have a Nitro distributor in my home town and for that reason I have switched to Nitro and likely won't be going back.

Mouthcaller

Man...so many decisions, so little time left...

Over the years of testing all the time I've noticed a large jump in yardage in the Hevi shot. 20 gauge in piticular as it turned a 30 yard gun into a 40 yard gun.

Chokes will make a difference and this is why we need to check out the patterns with the different combo's.

I still have 3 full boxes of the Old Hevi 13 20 gauge and I need to test 2 more chokes this spring. Can't wait to see if I can turn this 20 into a 50 yard gun, not that I would shoot that far, but confidents in a gun is a large part of turkey hunting...

mouthcaller: I harvested three boss gobblers last year with 3 shots @ $1.00 each and have been doing so for many years in many states... Winchester Supremes #5 from a bolt action shotgun....I see no need to justify spending more on shells....just more hunts....

it's not just the pattern----the penetration is so much greater, that the gun doesn't HAVE to pattern as well to be even more effective. But I get the best of both worlds, because it patterns so well in my turkey gun.

Are there any chokes you shouldn't shoot this load with?

Charlie, Chokes are rated lead, steel or hevi shot. The wrong choke could cause damage to your gun.....

i have a truglo gobbler stopper extreme .665 and i wanted to know if i could shoot hevi shot out of it i went to their website and it says no steel shot and thats it