What's Up with these Long Bow shooters?
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Giant Nontypical
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Too add to what Bob said about keeping it fun, a lot of traditional shooters refuse to keep score no matter what kind of shoot they attend. If they're issued a score card, this kind ofshooterwill either not fill it in or just write something like'Void' or'DNF' (Did Not Finish)across the face of the card. Naturally, since I wasn't there, I can't say whether or not that's what was going on in the particular case you're talking about. Unfortunately,you didn't investigate so you can't say either.
Busy or not, I would havewalked up and asked the guy what he was up to. If he was one of the non-scoring fellas and just flinging a couple of extra arrows for grins, that's okay by me... as long as he's not holding up other shooters and making a nuisance of himself. If he was shooting several arrows and picking the best of the lot to mark down for score, I'd have reported him to the nearest officer of the host club.
I've been a tournament director for a great many shoots. I've learned over the years to notautomatically expect the worst when I see some unorthodox goings on at a tournament - especially when it involves a traditional shooter. These guys areoddballs anyway, ya know. [8D]
Busy or not, I would havewalked up and asked the guy what he was up to. If he was one of the non-scoring fellas and just flinging a couple of extra arrows for grins, that's okay by me... as long as he's not holding up other shooters and making a nuisance of himself. If he was shooting several arrows and picking the best of the lot to mark down for score, I'd have reported him to the nearest officer of the host club.
I've been a tournament director for a great many shoots. I've learned over the years to notautomatically expect the worst when I see some unorthodox goings on at a tournament - especially when it involves a traditional shooter. These guys areoddballs anyway, ya know. [8D]

#12
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From: Stoutsville Ohio USA
You say it was a slow round any way and that's probably the reason the longbow shooters were shooting an extra arrow or two. They got tire of waiting fot the compunder to go through their twelve minute routine before loosing an arrow. Chances are they were not sooting for score and figure they might as well use the extra time for some productive shooting. I have been to mxed shoots where guys in my group have done that very thing.
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Boone & Crockett
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From: Mississippi USA
As much as I hate to say it, COB has a point. I've been guilty of taking an extra shot or two to pass the time when waiting on the group ahead of me myself.
Chad
Chad
#14
I was one of those longbow shooters doing exactly that this weekend...........as well as my buddy and his recurve.
We would shoot an arrow from the stake, then maybe 2 apiece from a realistic 20ish yardage as well. Generally 2-3 arrows each per target but we weren't scoring, and did have 2 compound buddies there too.
We were also taking pictures and laughing it up all day. We stayed in touch with the group behind us offering several times to let them play through since we were wanting to enjoy some time with friends that we rarely seem to get these days. They were appreciative but told us not to worry about it and have all the fun we wanted.
When the round was over we thanked them for their patience and everyone had a good day.
The key to goofing off in a non-competitive round is to just use common sense and talk to the group behind you.........if you ARE the group behind the goofs don't be afraid to speak up but don't be confrontational either. The people in front of you aren't trying to do anything TO YOU, they just don't know any better.
We would shoot an arrow from the stake, then maybe 2 apiece from a realistic 20ish yardage as well. Generally 2-3 arrows each per target but we weren't scoring, and did have 2 compound buddies there too.
We were also taking pictures and laughing it up all day. We stayed in touch with the group behind us offering several times to let them play through since we were wanting to enjoy some time with friends that we rarely seem to get these days. They were appreciative but told us not to worry about it and have all the fun we wanted.
When the round was over we thanked them for their patience and everyone had a good day.

The key to goofing off in a non-competitive round is to just use common sense and talk to the group behind you.........if you ARE the group behind the goofs don't be afraid to speak up but don't be confrontational either. The people in front of you aren't trying to do anything TO YOU, they just don't know any better.
#15
Typical Buck
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From: Butler, Pa (back home after all these years)
To add to Matt's reply, typically the longboe/recurve guy can shoot two or thrre to a compound shooters one arrow . So is he really holding anything up? just a thought. By the way I was the budy Matt was referring to. Like he said communication is the key there.
#17
Anyhow, I'd ask the guy shooting extra arrows if he'd mind waiting until I shot through because he was holding everyone up. If he didn't comply, I'd bring it to the attention of the club management.
Chad, I did mention it to the management, and they said Oh it must have been old Joe, he's been a member for a long time, I should have passed him and moved on. The guys I was shooting with didn't wantme to cause any trouble. This wasn't a big deal, I got over it. When I posted about it I was still upset at myself more than anything for not saying anything. It won't happen again. Just like Golfing behind a bunch of nimrods that don't know or follow the rules.
Chad, I did mention it to the management, and they said Oh it must have been old Joe, he's been a member for a long time, I should have passed him and moved on. The guys I was shooting with didn't wantme to cause any trouble. This wasn't a big deal, I got over it. When I posted about it I was still upset at myself more than anything for not saying anything. It won't happen again. Just like Golfing behind a bunch of nimrods that don't know or follow the rules.
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Nontypical Buck
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From: Moravia NY USA
Ask them if they payed for more then 1 round. Generally your entry fee is for 1 shot per target.
Targets are expensive for clubs and one should not assume your entry covers multiple or unlimited shooting.
Just something to think about.
Steve
Targets are expensive for clubs and one should not assume your entry covers multiple or unlimited shooting.
Just something to think about.
Steve
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Giant Nontypical
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Ask them if they payed for more then 1 round. Generally your entry fee is for 1 shot per target.
Targets are expensive for clubs and one should not assume your entry covers multiple or unlimited shooting.
Just something to think about.
Steve
Targets are expensive for clubs and one should not assume your entry covers multiple or unlimited shooting.
Just something to think about.
Steve
We also don't mind if people want to shoot closer or further from the stakes - again, as long as they aren't shooting for score - but we do insist they confine their shot position within the shooting lane for safety's sake. If we catch someone trying to invent shots outside of the shooting lane, that archer will be pulled off the course and banned from the range. We know how the course is set up and make our shooting lanes to ensure that arrows won't be crossing into other lanes, or endangering people looking for arrows behind other targets. Making up shots from outside the lane is blatant and total disregard for the safety of others and that behavior is never tolerated.
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Nontypical Buck
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From: Moravia NY USA
Good info Arthur - that was what I was trying to get across - probably not an issue, but a good thing to ask.
Safety is always 1st with courtesy to the club and other shooters close behind.
Steve
Safety is always 1st with courtesy to the club and other shooters close behind.
Steve


