Elitist attitude
02-27-2008 | 10:10 AM
#71
Giant Nontypical
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RE: Elitist attitude
Your not real familure with stealthycat, datamax, bigred, big duan, and all the other names he has been banned under.
02-27-2008 | 10:13 AM
#72
Giant Nontypical
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From: Central Minnesota
RE: Elitist attitude
ORIGINAL: burniegoeasily
Your not real familure with stealthycat, datamax, bigred, big duan, and all the other names he has been banned under. Im just playing by his rules. You need to get more familure with this board. Im pokeing at Big Duan. Big Duan was using P & Y as a set rule of standards that have been watered down by all the "sub par" archers. I was just pointing out how P & Y standards are not law or even that important when it comes to my hunting.
Even with that said, explain how my entering an animal in the P @ Y club benefits me or their conservation causeses? I do not denie their conservation efforts and support them in that way, but me haveing and animal registered in their books means nothing towards that effort. Its a brag book. Why would I care to have my name in it. I have many deer that could be put in there, just see no need. I do support their cause, just dont worry about the book. Do I care if people do, no. Its all up to them, really has no meaning to me. Ill respond back with your poke, Whatever.!!!!
ORIGINAL: Schultzy
Now we got a pissing contest about P@Y?? Don't bite the hand that feeds you Burnie!! The P@Y club is the biggest supporter for us bow hunters. I am a proud member and will continue to be. The P@Y club is the farthest thing from a fraternity! The board members are your every day Joe's like you and I. Believe me I know this, I know a quite of few of the board members and there nothing like you said they are, not even close. The P@Y club headquarters are in Minnesota about 4 hours from where I live, its one hell of a place to see. Lots of information there. I would love for you to tell them what you just typed up, there expressions would be priceless!! Another thing too, just because I enter animal's in the P@Y, does that mean I'm bragging? Whatever!!
ORIGINAL: burniegoeasily
By the way, who cares about P & Y???? Ive shot several and never register them. I hunt for the meat and the solitude. I dont do it to brag to others.
So who cares if a "faternity" is getting watered down. I don’t need the club or want their magic decoder ring. Besides, what is important about being in the P & Y? Being a member doesn’t help there conservation efforts.
By the way, who cares about P & Y???? Ive shot several and never register them. I hunt for the meat and the solitude. I dont do it to brag to others.
So who cares if a "faternity" is getting watered down. I don’t need the club or want their magic decoder ring. Besides, what is important about being in the P & Y? Being a member doesn’t help there conservation efforts.
Even with that said, explain how my entering an animal in the P @ Y club benefits me or their conservation causeses? I do not denie their conservation efforts and support them in that way, but me haveing and animal registered in their books means nothing towards that effort. Its a brag book. Why would I care to have my name in it. I have many deer that could be put in there, just see no need. I do support their cause, just dont worry about the book. Do I care if people do, no. Its all up to them, really has no meaning to me. Ill respond back with your poke, Whatever.!!!!
02-27-2008 | 10:15 AM
#73
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From: Pittsburgh, PA
RE: Elitist attitude
I knew there was a reason I stayed out of this. [&:]
But, there were several very nicely stated opinions that made for decent reading.
The longer I go about this, more I could care less. I do think there are progressive steps of difficulty, but that gives people individual choice, which is a good thing. The only times I will get a bit "weapon-biased" is when the numbers of people + the ease of use, can detrimentally impact the length and or quality(read as not crowded) of a hunting season.
But, there were several very nicely stated opinions that made for decent reading.
The longer I go about this, more I could care less. I do think there are progressive steps of difficulty, but that gives people individual choice, which is a good thing. The only times I will get a bit "weapon-biased" is when the numbers of people + the ease of use, can detrimentally impact the length and or quality(read as not crowded) of a hunting season.
02-27-2008 | 10:16 AM
#74
Giant Nontypical
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From: Central Minnesota
RE: Elitist attitude
ORIGINAL: MN/Kyle
Maybe you just post too much[:-][8D]
ORIGINAL: Schultzy
This I didn't know, I apologize! I thought you were poking at me on the P@Y stuff! And also excuse me for not being more familar with the board, geeze, I've only been here since September or so.
This I didn't know, I apologize! I thought you were poking at me on the P@Y stuff! And also excuse me for not being more familar with the board, geeze, I've only been here since September or so.
02-27-2008 | 10:24 AM
#75
Nontypical Buck
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From: Minnesota
RE: Elitist attitude
Just messin' with ya Steve.
Guys, I've been following this thread since the begining, and all I can say is...Archery is Archery.
Wiaxle put it exacly how I see it:
and also
I'm soon going to be getting a longbow. But I will never NOT shoot, or hunt with my compound. I love SHOOTING BOWS and I LOVE hunting. Archery is Archery guys.
Guys, I've been following this thread since the begining, and all I can say is...Archery is Archery.
Wiaxle put it exacly how I see it:
Does it really matter what people use hunt with a bow and arrow? Isn't the whole idea behind this type of hunting to get out into the woods and enjoy it?
There are enough other negative influences out there without sowing seeds of dissension within the ranks of the folks that are already in your camp.
You find more enjoyment hunting with a longbow, more power to you, but don't presume to lessen the way other people draw enjoyment from the sport.
You find more enjoyment hunting with a longbow, more power to you, but don't presume to lessen the way other people draw enjoyment from the sport.
02-27-2008 | 10:31 AM
#76
Giant Nontypical
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From: Central Minnesota
RE: Elitist attitude
ORIGINAL: MN/Kyle
Just messin' with ya Steve.
Guys, I've been following this thread since the begining, and all I can say is...Archery is Archery.
Wiaxle put it exacly how I see it:
and also
I'm soon going to be getting a longbow. But I will never NOT shoot, or hunt with my compound. I love SHOOTING BOWS and I LOVE hunting. Archery is Archery guys.
Just messin' with ya Steve.
Guys, I've been following this thread since the begining, and all I can say is...Archery is Archery.
Wiaxle put it exacly how I see it:
Does it really matter what people use hunt with a bow and arrow? Isn't the whole idea behind this type of hunting to get out into the woods and enjoy it?
There are enough other negative influences out there without sowing seeds of dissension within the ranks of the folks that are already in your camp.
You find more enjoyment hunting with a longbow, more power to you, but don't presume to lessen the way other people draw enjoyment from the sport.
You find more enjoyment hunting with a longbow, more power to you, but don't presume to lessen the way other people draw enjoyment from the sport.
02-27-2008 | 10:43 AM
#78
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From: land of the Lilliputians, In the state of insanity
RE: Elitist attitude
ORIGINAL: Schultzy
It doesn't benefit me or you Burnie. Does everyone have to benefit from something these days when they do something? I swear this world is getting more greedy everyday! What it does to me is give the animal recognition, respect, etc. Some people think its a bragging a book, there are many hunters out there who put there animals in the books for that reason. Not I, its all about giving that awesome animal recognition and respect! I'm not saying people who don't put animals in the books don't have the same feelings I do, I know better then that. Its just what I do.
ORIGINAL: burniegoeasily
Your not real familure with stealthycat, datamax, bigred, big duan, and all the other names he has been banned under. Im just playing by his rules. You need to get more familure with this board. Im pokeing at Big Duan. Big Duan was using P & Y as a set rule of standards that have been watered down by all the "sub par" archers. I was just pointing out how P & Y standards are not law or even that important when it comes to my hunting.
Even with that said, explain how my entering an animal in the P @ Y club benefits me or their conservation causeses? I do not denie their conservation efforts and support them in that way, but me haveing and animal registered in their books means nothing towards that effort. Its a brag book. Why would I care to have my name in it. I have many deer that could be put in there, just see no need. I do support their cause, just dont worry about the book. Do I care if people do, no. Its all up to them, really has no meaning to me. Ill respond back with your poke, Whatever.!!!!
ORIGINAL: Schultzy
Now we got a pissing contest about P@Y?? Don't bite the hand that feeds you Burnie!! The P@Y club is the biggest supporter for us bow hunters. I am a proud member and will continue to be. The P@Y club is the farthest thing from a fraternity! The board members are your every day Joe's like you and I. Believe me I know this, I know a quite of few of the board members and there nothing like you said they are, not even close. The P@Y club headquarters are in Minnesota about 4 hours from where I live, its one hell of a place to see. Lots of information there. I would love for you to tell them what you just typed up, there expressions would be priceless!! Another thing too, just because I enter animal's in the P@Y, does that mean I'm bragging? Whatever!!
ORIGINAL: burniegoeasily
By the way, who cares about P & Y???? Ive shot several and never register them. I hunt for the meat and the solitude. I dont do it to brag to others.
So who cares if a "faternity" is getting watered down. I don’t need the club or want their magic decoder ring. Besides, what is important about being in the P & Y? Being a member doesn’t help there conservation efforts.
By the way, who cares about P & Y???? Ive shot several and never register them. I hunt for the meat and the solitude. I dont do it to brag to others.
So who cares if a "faternity" is getting watered down. I don’t need the club or want their magic decoder ring. Besides, what is important about being in the P & Y? Being a member doesn’t help there conservation efforts.
Even with that said, explain how my entering an animal in the P @ Y club benefits me or their conservation causeses? I do not denie their conservation efforts and support them in that way, but me haveing and animal registered in their books means nothing towards that effort. Its a brag book. Why would I care to have my name in it. I have many deer that could be put in there, just see no need. I do support their cause, just dont worry about the book. Do I care if people do, no. Its all up to them, really has no meaning to me. Ill respond back with your poke, Whatever.!!!!
If you havent noticed, this whole post was started so Duane could be elitest and start belittleing others who he does not feel want to live to his standards. Typical flaming by the old Stealthycat
02-27-2008 | 10:48 AM
#79
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From: Central Minnesota
RE: Elitist attitude
ORIGINAL: burniegoeasily
I can respect that, and it is a worthy cause. Like I said, I was just pokeing at Big Duan using his twitsted logic. He was using P & Y standards to try to belittle people who pursue archery in other means than his choosen methoid.
If you havent noticed, this whole post was started so Duane could be elitest and start belittleing others who he does not feel want to live to his standards. Typical flaming by the old Stealthycat
ORIGINAL: Schultzy
It doesn't benefit me or you Burnie. Does everyone have to benefit from something these days when they do something? I swear this world is getting more greedy everyday! What it does to me is give the animal recognition, respect, etc. Some people think its a bragging a book, there are many hunters out there who put there animals in the books for that reason. Not I, its all about giving that awesome animal recognition and respect! I'm not saying people who don't put animals in the books don't have the same feelings I do, I know better then that. Its just what I do.
ORIGINAL: burniegoeasily
Your not real familure with stealthycat, datamax, bigred, big duan, and all the other names he has been banned under. Im just playing by his rules. You need to get more familure with this board. Im pokeing at Big Duan. Big Duan was using P & Y as a set rule of standards that have been watered down by all the "sub par" archers. I was just pointing out how P & Y standards are not law or even that important when it comes to my hunting.
Even with that said, explain how my entering an animal in the P @ Y club benefits me or their conservation causeses? I do not denie their conservation efforts and support them in that way, but me haveing and animal registered in their books means nothing towards that effort. Its a brag book. Why would I care to have my name in it. I have many deer that could be put in there, just see no need. I do support their cause, just dont worry about the book. Do I care if people do, no. Its all up to them, really has no meaning to me. Ill respond back with your poke, Whatever.!!!!
ORIGINAL: Schultzy
Now we got a pissing contest about P@Y?? Don't bite the hand that feeds you Burnie!! The P@Y club is the biggest supporter for us bow hunters. I am a proud member and will continue to be. The P@Y club is the farthest thing from a fraternity! The board members are your every day Joe's like you and I. Believe me I know this, I know a quite of few of the board members and there nothing like you said they are, not even close. The P@Y club headquarters are in Minnesota about 4 hours from where I live, its one hell of a place to see. Lots of information there. I would love for you to tell them what you just typed up, there expressions would be priceless!! Another thing too, just because I enter animal's in the P@Y, does that mean I'm bragging? Whatever!!
ORIGINAL: burniegoeasily
By the way, who cares about P & Y???? Ive shot several and never register them. I hunt for the meat and the solitude. I dont do it to brag to others.
So who cares if a "faternity" is getting watered down. I don’t need the club or want their magic decoder ring. Besides, what is important about being in the P & Y? Being a member doesn’t help there conservation efforts.
By the way, who cares about P & Y???? Ive shot several and never register them. I hunt for the meat and the solitude. I dont do it to brag to others.
So who cares if a "faternity" is getting watered down. I don’t need the club or want their magic decoder ring. Besides, what is important about being in the P & Y? Being a member doesn’t help there conservation efforts.
Even with that said, explain how my entering an animal in the P @ Y club benefits me or their conservation causeses? I do not denie their conservation efforts and support them in that way, but me haveing and animal registered in their books means nothing towards that effort. Its a brag book. Why would I care to have my name in it. I have many deer that could be put in there, just see no need. I do support their cause, just dont worry about the book. Do I care if people do, no. Its all up to them, really has no meaning to me. Ill respond back with your poke, Whatever.!!!!
If you havent noticed, this whole post was started so Duane could be elitest and start belittleing others who he does not feel want to live to his standards. Typical flaming by the old Stealthycat
02-27-2008 | 10:52 AM
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From: Obama made me join the NRA for 5 years !
RE: Elitist attitude
Exactly what is your definition of "elitest"?
As far as crossbows go, the general premise is they are "primitive", but they aren't archery equipment.
They are oft defined as not being allowed in bowhunting season, but they ARE archery
Dont post hear or even read anymore posts until you get out with a draw knife and carve your own self bow, nap your flint, and draw your arrows.
Compounds and crossbows are different.
By the way, who cares about P & Y????
I'm not a member, but I DO recognize what they've done.
Wyvern Crossbowyou've drawn a line to include ALL technology in archery season based on that it will not impact archery season lengths, limits etc, am I correct ?
And thats fine, you can explain your reasoning, you reasons why. Its logical, it makes some sense, I can at least see that view
Schultzy do you remember the fractures when compounds were allowed ? When greater than 65% was set ?
Gentlemen, if you can accept inclusion of the modern compound and all it's accompanying gadgetry as archery, then you must also accept the crossbow. An unabashed elitist tells you this. [8D]
I also agree with your quote there, if you allow technology, allow it. I don't think it should be allowed to be honest, so I'm on the other side of that line, but its those who scream crossbows are foul and then go shoot their tricked out compounds that befuddle me.
I was just pointing out how P & Y standards are not law or even that important when it comes to my hunting.
The only times I will get a bit "weapon-biased" is when the numbers of people + the ease of use, can detrimentally impact the length and or quality(read as not crowded) of a hunting season.
Does it matter the username if the topic is valid ? That I spoke out against canned hunting and was banned changes not this thread or others, does it ?