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RE: Elitist attitude
ORIGINAL: burniegoeasily ORIGINAL: Schultzy ORIGINAL: NEW61375 ORIGINAL: Schultzy ORIGINAL: ranger56528 you can say what you all want but it dosnt change the fact that they are all bows. Long(bow). Recurve(bow) Compound(bow). Cross(bow)....recurve or compound... Now 3 of these fit the Bow as in bent stick with a string attached to both ends.. Then there are 2 that are the big ?.that being compound and crossbow compound witch use 2 limbs and more then 1 string/cable and have 1 or more pullies....But no matter how you look at it they all have limbs and propel a arrow...... Now if they would of called 2 of these guns as in CROSSGUN then we would have a reason to argue about it,but they are not.... I wounder if Fisherman call fishing with a Depth Finder really fishing or do they want a differant season for people that use depth finders....I dont think so.... You can arrgue/bicker all you want but as long as they are referd to as bows thats what they are Bows... If you cant precive that these are all bows then you(as everyone)need to buy your own Privet land and hunt it with your type of bow and live in your own little world and leave the rest alone. Question.. I have hunted for 24 yrs with bow only this will be my 25th year,now being how Ive used the bow only for this long and own all 5 types,recurve,longbow,compound,crossbow compound and recurve are anyof you going to tell me Iam not a true bow hunter...or that Iam lazzy because I have chosen to own a compound and crossbow....I hope Not. I put just as much time inthru the year with all my bows to be the best I can be and getting to understand the bow its self..... I am what I am...A Bowman 1st and a Hunter 2nd...... Let me ask you something if you don't mind. None of those pictures are bow hunting. They are just pictures and what bowhunting is and means to everyone is as varied as all ofour preferences in weapons. Although I understand the point you are making about the crossbow being cocked my question is this, Is that what bowhunting is to you? That one aspect of the hunt, the drawing and holdingof the bow? Of course it's not so while I understand the point I don't see how it is that significant. It's kind of like a guy with a compound who only has to hold 10-15% of his drawweight, that's nothing like a recurve or longbow but we just kind of accept that asdifferences in equipment, but you throw a crossbow into the mix and a lot of acceptance goes out the window. |
RE: Elitist attitude
Guys, I hate to have to say this again. But, if technology is such a bad thing and improvements in technology are eroding the sport, then you really should go back to the original routine of using a spear or the most primitive form of bow you can make that will still be effective, or only do stalk hunting rather than using a blind, etc.. If you look hard enough, there is always gonna be somebody out there who can out-primative you. But then again, I'm guessing that even you primitive hunters ultimately end up using far more toys than i do when i go out with a shotgun.
And Bruce, congrats on actually knowing what technology entails. I just know that when i finally get in a position to make a shot I want the most efficient tool that the law allows in that condition. Otherwise, the risk is there that you are gonna make some shed hunter realy happy in the spring. |
RE: Elitist attitude
ORIGINAL: Schultzy ORIGINAL: burniegoeasily ORIGINAL: Schultzy ORIGINAL: NEW61375 ORIGINAL: Schultzy ORIGINAL: ranger56528 you can say what you all want but it dosnt change the fact that they are all bows. Long(bow). Recurve(bow) Compound(bow). Cross(bow)....recurve or compound... Now 3 of these fit the Bow as in bent stick with a string attached to both ends.. Then there are 2 that are the big ?.that being compound and crossbow compound witch use 2 limbs and more then 1 string/cable and have 1 or more pullies....But no matter how you look at it they all have limbs and propel a arrow...... Now if they would of called 2 of these guns as in CROSSGUN then we would have a reason to argue about it,but they are not.... I wounder if Fisherman call fishing with a Depth Finder really fishing or do they want a differant season for people that use depth finders....I dont think so.... You can arrgue/bicker all you want but as long as they are referd to as bows thats what they are Bows... If you cant precive that these are all bows then you(as everyone)need to buy your own Privet land and hunt it with your type of bow and live in your own little world and leave the rest alone. Question.. I have hunted for 24 yrs with bow only this will be my 25th year,now being how Ive used the bow only for this long and own all 5 types,recurve,longbow,compound,crossbow compound and recurve are anyof you going to tell me Iam not a true bow hunter...or that Iam lazzy because I have chosen to own a compound and crossbow....I hope Not. I put just as much time inthru the year with all my bows to be the best I can be and getting to understand the bow its self..... I am what I am...A Bowman 1st and a Hunter 2nd...... Let me ask you something if you don't mind. None of those pictures are bow hunting. They are just pictures and what bowhunting is and means to everyone is as varied as all ofour preferences in weapons. Although I understand the point you are making about the crossbow being cocked my question is this, Is that what bowhunting is to you? That one aspect of the hunt, the drawing and holdingof the bow? Of course it's not so while I understand the point I don't see how it is that significant. It's kind of like a guy with a compound who only has to hold 10-15% of his drawweight, that's nothing like a recurve or longbow but we just kind of accept that asdifferences in equipment, but you throw a crossbow into the mix and a lot of acceptance goes out the window. |
RE: Elitist attitude
ORIGINAL: Lanse couche couche Guys, I hate to have to say this again. But, if technology is such a bad thing and improvements in technology are eroding the sport, then you really should go back to the original routine of using a spear or the most primitive form of bow you can make that will still be effective, or only do stalk hunting rather than using a blind, etc.. If you look hard enough, there is always gonna be somebody out there who can out-primative you. But then again, I'm guessing that even you primitive hunters ultimately end up using far more toys than i do when i go out with a shotgun. And Bruce, congrats on actually knowing what technology entails. I just know that when i finally get in a position to make a shot I want the most efficient tool that the law allows in that condition. Otherwise, the risk is there that you are gonna make some shed hunter realy happy in the spring. |
RE: Elitist attitude
ORIGINAL: Lanse couche couche You can't get away from all the nonsense. Hell, you go into Walmart and look at the slug guns and you got some kid that is barely old enough to vote lecturing you that real hunters don't use guns. It reaches the point where hanging around people during deer season is like being around a bunch of bitchy old women. And I do own my own land, but since deer hunting is not particularly high on my list of hunting to begin with, I just tend to let other folks hunt it nowdays. |
RE: Elitist attitude
Yeah, the loincloth should be a definite requirement. What could be more challenging than to try to draw an accurate bead on a deer with that trusty recurve while your nads are freezing. Come on guys, let's get really primitive and back to our roots.
Well, BC, the last time i checked, bows are used to kill other stuff besides deer, so i decided it is worth checking out. And just because I am not a fanatic about something doesn't mean that I don't want to talk about it. And the pleasure has been all mine. |
RE: Elitist attitude
There are so many people out there that would be wounding animals right and left shooting these Traditional bows, its not for everyone. Its a good thing we have compounds out there, for some there allot simpler to learn and master and some people just plain and simple love the gadgets they have. You don't have to like it, but when you start preaching against it, you do come across like a soapbox preacher in the French Quarter during Mardi Gras. brucelanthiertrue to a point, however technology allows you things traditional equipment would not I think. Longer shots, more power, more everything really - and when you have (like a crossbow) a weapons you can buy at wal-mart on Friday evening and hunt Sat morning with it ... I think a LOT is lost there, don't you ? Lanse couche couche ahhh you're ignoring me, thats okay. its hard to answer tough questions ;) Bowhunting isn't about spears. Bowhunting is about bows and arrows, the flight of the arrow, the sharpening of a head, the comraderie involved, the hunting, its all encompassing. You've not done it, you don't get it, simple enough I just know that when i finally get in a position to make a shot I want the most efficient tool that the law allows in that condition. |
RE: Elitist attitude
ORIGINAL: Lanse couche couche Yeah, the loincloth should be a definite requirement. What could be more challenging than to try to draw an accurate bead on a deer with that trusty recurve while your nads are freezing. Come on guys, let's get really primitive and back to our roots. |
RE: Elitist attitude
ORIGINAL: burniegoeasily I was just asking because you did make it clear why P & Y was important to you, which was a legit reason that I will agree with. I just thought there might be another way of looking at this that i have yet to see.;) |
RE: Elitist attitude
Read again, I didn't say that I'm not interested in it, just that I dont want to hunt that way. Try to maintain focus here.
And Duane, I'm not ignoring you, it is just getting hard to follow massive cut and paste posts. And you are right, I don't get it when one style claims to have cornered the market on comaraderie or anything else related to the intangibles of hunting. |
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