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burniegoeasily 02-26-2008 10:12 AM

RE: Elitist attitude
 
This is how I look at it all.

I enjoy what I do. I do it for the enjoyment and challenge. I do it to for myself and no one else. I dont care what others think. The bottom line, if you get pleasure from what you do, do it. Dont worry about peer approval or praise. If you get caught up in what others think, or what other do, you are wasting your time worrying and not doing. No need to put on self imposed stress.




Big Duane 02-26-2008 10:46 AM

RE: Elitist attitude
 
bigcountry thrill killing isnt hunting


You're kidding me right?:eek:
BobCo19-65 its almost a universal true isn't it ? That the more you put into something the more you get out of it ?





I enjoy what I do. I do it for the enjoyment and challenge. I do it to for myself and no one else. I dont care what others think. The bottom line, if you get pleasure from what you do, do it. Dont worry about peer approval or praise. If you get caught up in what others think, or what other do, you are wasting your time worrying and not doing. No need to put on self imposed stress.



burniegoeasily I agree to a point. If someone want to hunt with an AR-15 with a 30- round clip, I don't guess that affects me one way or the other. However, its not nearly the accomplishment nor the "hunting" that shooting a deer with a bow, is it ?

Back to my muzzleloade analogy - do you think the new muzzleloader have breached what is and isn't a "traditional" season that was once muzzleloaders in a truer form ? Has Knight and TC and the others not taken their weapons beyond what most really consider "traditional muzzleloader" ?

I mean, 300 yard 2" groups, shooting mullets and high velocity, powder pellets, synthetic stocks, high optics mounted on top ..... is that REALLY what traditional muzzleloader season should be ?

According to your statement, awe what the hell, let 'em shoot what they want ....... right ?

But someone, somewhere dictates what is and isn't allowed. WHY and HOW do they come to their conclusion and based on what ? Its not totally based on harvest projections etc I can tell you that.



bigcountry 02-26-2008 10:49 AM

RE: Elitist attitude
 

ORIGINAL: Big Duane

bigcountry thrill killing isnt hunting

Hmm, never said it was. I am talking about putting meat on my table. I can't control other people and what they do for fun. I have to live for me.

burniegoeasily 02-26-2008 11:16 AM

RE: Elitist attitude
 
Thats not what I meant. I assumed you understood this was under the constraints of this post, which I was assuming we were speaking about hunting tacktics within the bounds of legal hunting. With that correction to my statememt, I stick with my response.

gutshot 02-26-2008 12:15 PM

RE: Elitist attitude
 
My question would be what gives you the right to hold another person to your standards? What does it matter what I shoot? Same thing with Bow hunters verses gun hunters. Just because someone decides not to do it the way that you do doesn't make them any less of a hunter or person than you or me.

jackmcmanus21 02-26-2008 12:16 PM

RE: Elitist attitude
 

ORIGINAL: burniegoeasily

This is how I look at it all.

I enjoy what I do. I do it for the enjoyment and challenge. I do it to for myself and no one else. I dont care what others think. The bottom line, if you get pleasure from what you do, do it. Dont worry about peer approval or praise. If you get caught up in what others think, or what other do, you are wasting your time worrying and not doing. No need to put on self imposed stress.



agreed

BobCo19-65 02-26-2008 12:33 PM

RE: Elitist attitude
 

ORIGINAL: gutshot

My question would be what gives you the right to hold another person to your standards? What does it matter what I shoot? Same thing with Bow hunters verses gun hunters. Just because someone decides not to do it the way that you do doesn't make them any less of a hunter or person than you or me.
Just wondering if you are addressing everyone or a specific person.

Matt / PA 02-26-2008 01:02 PM

RE: Elitist attitude
 

Compounds are just a wee bit harder than crossbows, there is a solid argument that compounds are actually EASIER, because of their quietness, light mass weight and speeds all combines into one
We share some views but we're completely opposite on this quote......... If you think compounds are as easy or easier than a crossbow to use we've just parted ways. ;)


Big Duane 02-26-2008 02:03 PM

RE: Elitist attitude
 

Hmm, never said it was. I am talking about putting meat on my table. I can't control other people and what they do for fun. I have to live for me.
bigcountry

I don't have a problem putting meat on tables. I wonder if Fred Bear or any of the archery legends ever tooks rifles out and killed game for their tables ? I know most as young men did.

Its not so much about controlling as it is ackowedgeing and drawing lines in the sand.



My question would be what gives you the right to hold another person to your standards? What does it matter what I shoot? Same thing with Bow hunters verses gun hunters. Just because someone decides not to do it the way that you do doesn't make them any less of a hunter or person than you or me.
Maybe this all goes hand in hand with the canned hunting debates I've been having. It DOES matter in an all encompassing world of hunting. Its matters than people, in the name of hunting, enters a pen and shoots a tiger. I think it matters.

To a lesser degree, I think it also matters that a guy with a decked out compound takes a 425" 8x8 bull on a $50,000 NM Reservation hunt with a decked out compounds at 80 yards or whatever it is and that THAT is considered by all to be bowhunting.

Maybe I can't put it into words, but I think it matters


Thats not what I meant. I assumed you understood this was under the constraints of this post, which I was assuming we were speaking about hunting tacktics within the bounds of legal hunting. With that correction to my statememt, I stick with my response.
burniegoeasily

Are you a Democrat ? Do you believe that people should be allowed to do whatever they want to as long as it doesn't affect anyone else ?

Iwork with a guy that believes that. What he doesn't believe is that rarely does one persons actions NOT affect others. What do people do inevitably affect others.



We share some views but we're completely opposite on this quote......... If you think compounds are as easy or easier than a crossbow to use we've just parted ways. ;)
Matt / PA its a very arguable assertation I can assure you. With a compound, you have a bow thats much quieter (jumpy little whitetails), lighter (can you imagine stalking a bedded mule deer with a crossbow or still hunting with one of them ?), and the downrange retention of energy in the arrows makes them equally if not more advantageous to long range shooting. Scopes really tip the balance on crossbows, remove them and I'd bet more can shoot compounds better. You can shoot multiple arrows using a compound (ever tried to cock a 225# crossbow in a treestand ?)

Compounds are the #1 choice of bowhunters - for a reason. I rarely see a crossbow hunter in Arkansas. Compounds dominate the bowhunting landscape here

burniegoeasily 02-26-2008 02:21 PM

RE: Elitist attitude
 

burniegoeasily

Are you a Democrat ? Do you believe that people should be allowed to do whatever they want to as long as it doesn't affect anyone else ?

Iwork with a guy that believes that. What he doesn't believe is that rarely does one persons actions NOT affect others. What do people do inevitably affect others.
What in the hell are you talking about? I feel I was rather clear. Were the bounds not explained well enough? Legal limits. Where are you trying to take this pissing contest.




Actually, im all for only Black peoplegetting to hunt and can only use crossbows. That is once they have taken massive doses of prozac and oxycontin, and can only shoot an animal that is in a pin. And of course, they have to wash down their medication with whole milk and change the name of their pitbulls to Shaniqua, that is after watching hours video about child rearing as perfected by the Croc Hunter.:eek:


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