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RE: You guys see this blind test @ Bowsite?
LOL, I knew somehow this would turn into a dog fight over here. I read the test results and didn't see anything worth commenting on really. I thought most of it to be BS.
Ok guys correct me if I'm wrong.... The bows that usually end up being the most vibration free and quiet, are usually the bows that are "tamed" down compared to some of the others. I mean, the Liberty and Outback aren't considered barnburners by any means. From experience with the Liberty, its just plain and simply a smooth drawing, shooting, quiet hunting bow not built for speed, but quietness and lack of vibration. That and the obvious inherent advantage the parallel limb technology. |
RE: You guys see this blind test @ Bowsite?
Yea:D
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RE: You guys see this blind test @ Bowsite?
Dylan (55#recurve), you need to post more often. I'd completely forgotten about you. [8D] :(
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RE: You guys see this blind test @ Bowsite?
After seeing these test results I've been doing a little research on bowsite.com (newbie on there) and I see they did this similar test last year too.
I was checking out some past threads over there and I found this one http://www.bowsite.org/bowsite/tf/bg...orum=2#1257858 It appears that pinwheel12 doesn't like any testing done by the bowsite crew or the guy that runs those boards since he was called names by him. ORIGINAL: Pinwheel 12 I feel they were definately trying to "railroad" a couple of the bows that are trying hard to gain market share If so when are we going to see Merlin do any kind of advertising? I mean if they're trying to gain marketshare they need to advertise, right?. Correct me if I'm wrong but other than these message boards that's the only place I see or hear anything about Merlin bows and we all know that the number of people that come to these boards are a very miniscule amount of actual hunters out there. I get numerous archery and hunting related magazines, am I missing their ads? Do they sponsor any hunting shows or message boards? I'll bet if they spent just a few dollers of thier profits to market their product they would grow at a very rapid pace, maybe even too fast. JMHO. later, back to the bowsite[8D]:) Toby |
RE: You guys see this blind test @ Bowsite?
Ratus-
Now Toby, don't you worry about Merlin, son, they're doing just fine--- but nice of you to be so concerned![8D][8D] Fact is that Merlin is doing exactly what they want to do, and growing exactly at the pace they want. They put their money into their PRODUCTS instead of advertisng and BS---what a concept!! Far better than getting too big, too fast, and thus building "cheese" with loose tolerances because machinery is full bore trying to keep up with high volume of orders, things getting thrown together, drawlengths an inch too long and incorrect poundages too. Nope we don't need that.... but thanks for trying to help!![8D] Also no need to dig up ancient history that has been long forgetten by both people who were involved either---especially simply to try and get a rise out of me---- I think you're starting to tread into areas where you need not be, and you should maybe think hard about that as the "big joke" is not a joke in reality when it directly affects someones' livlihood--- By the way, "I dunno how to edit" was pretty good too---funny that you certainly know how to quote, which is much more difficult....Hmmmm:eek: Thanks for that little dig too. Doing more constructive things to help others and the sport instead of going around finding ways to bust Merlins' and my nads would be time much better spent IMHO.;) Pinwheel 12 |
RE: You guys see this blind test @ Bowsite?
You know I'm really sorry I posted this. The only reason I did was because based on many evaluations here of the various new offerings there was a fairly strong at least qualitative consensus that the Liberty, Outback and the Xtec were the winners this year. I think my thinking was not to discredit the testing there but to commend the evaluations that occur here. Sort of like, yeah we already knew that. I really think that when it comes to objective, unbiased technical evaluations of bows, this site remains as good as it gets. That's all I was getting at, it was more kudos to us.
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RE: You guys see this blind test @ Bowsite?
Buckfevr, don't be sorry. You are right in your thinking. Some people can see the test for what it is. Others, whose brand of choice didn't do so well, cannot. The three bows you mention will dominate sales for the 04 model year. There are allot of bows that are very good, and those will also sell well. It all comes down to what an individual likes, and what they want in a bow.
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RE: You guys see this blind test @ Bowsite?
ORIGINAL: Pinwheel 12
Ratus- Now Toby, don't you worry about Merlin, son, they're doing just fine--- but nice of you to be so concerned![8D][8D] This will be my last reply to this thread but I would like to say a few more things before I'm outta here. Please don't talk down to me like I'm a little kid or like your superior to me, I like to try to make valid points and ask questions just like many others. I hope you wouldn't treat someone like that if they come in your shop or through your Merlin USA emails and ask the same questions or make the same comments. Fact is that Merlin is doing exactly what they want to do, and growing exactly at the pace they want. They put their money into their PRODUCTS instead of advertisng and BS---what a concept!! Far better than getting too big, too fast, and thus building "cheese" with loose tolerances because machinery is full bore trying to keep up with high volume of orders, things getting thrown together, drawlengths an inch too long and incorrect poundages too. Nope we don't need that.... but thanks for trying to help!![8D] Also no need to dig up ancient history that has been long forgetten by both people who were involved either---especially simply to try and get a rise out of me---- I think you're starting to tread into areas where you need not be, and you should maybe think hard about that as the "big joke" is not a joke in reality when it directly affects someones' livlihood--- By the way, "I dunno how to edit" was pretty good too---funny that you certainly know how to quote, which is much more difficult....Hmmmm:eek: Thanks for that little dig too. Doing more constructive things to help others and the sport instead of going around finding ways to bust Merlins' and my nads would be time much better spent IMHO.;) Pinwheel 12 I would tend to believe that customer service is one of the most important things when running a business. Later, Toby |
RE: You guys see this blind test @ Bowsite?
I have been on vacation for the last couple of weeks but did have the opportunity to read the test results today. Interesting results and pretty much right on my personal experiences when considering the top few bows that I have had the opportunity to get my hands on.
Now, I better go read the rest of this thread to see why there are so many posts and views...;) |
RE: You guys see this blind test @ Bowsite?
I thought the test was o.k but personally, I'd like to see a head to head test done by machines as well as getting human feedback especially since humans are the ones going to be shooting them.
A machine can clearly test some aspects but IMO you'll always have to add the human element and take it for what's it's worth as each and every one of us are diferent (thank god ;)) and we'll all have varying opinons and feelings... Shoot em' all and make your own decision on YOUR findings...:) |
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