Atlasman:

I had some camo Carbon Express arrows two years ago that seemed quite noisy to draw through the biscuit. Smooth finish carbons, like Easton Axis, are silent. Aluminums are very quiet to my ears. Rougher finish carbons can make a slight hiss.

The sound of the arrow being shot through the bristles is not nearly as bad as the vibration that I get with one of my shoot through rests. With a full, untrimmed B1 biscuit, shooting "soft" vanes like AAE Plastifletch or Duravanes, you can hear a slap. It is not really that loud, and it is something that the shooter hears more than someone standing close by, as I have been in both positions. I don't bother with those types of vanes anymore, as you do have to refletch more often with them. With AAE Speedflytes, Bohnings, and Flex Fletch, the noise, as well as refletching concerns are minimal. I like feathers better than vanes except when it is raining. Feathers make no additional noise when shot through the biscuit.

Didn't you leave a long time ago???.........right about the time you were asked to back up your pile of BS and lies??


I asked about any scraping sound on the DRAW with smooth finishes. That is the only noise I would ever be concerned with using a WB. Noise during a shot is minimal if any.........at least on my Patriot anyways.

Would probably still scare a mature buck off at over a mile away though

To the ears of what?

Since at most it will take .2 seconds for my arrow to hit him it doesn't really matter what the ears are attached to..........the only noise coming from me that can save his butt would have to come before the shot.

Now I know you think whitetails can hear your heart beat from the next time zone so I guess it doesn't matter what anyone uses...........it will never be quiet enough

Great googly moogly! I was wrong in my first reply , we're up to six pages.


Anyhoooo

atlas:

In 30-degree moist weather, the speed of sound is roughly 1100+ fps. Let us pretend your shaft is burning in at 300 fps. Which will reach the deer first? Remember, there are post-release sounds also.

http://www.edersbow.com/publication/...sk/default.cfm

Of course, I have to consider that you have not yet observed many deer react to sounds when bowhunting, at common bowhunting ranges. In time, you may eventually see how fast a deer can react.

My god you guys

get a room!

We all know that the speed of sound is faster then an arrow. This is something I would concern myself with if I took long shots or if I had a "loud" bow. Since I won't shoot over 20-25 yards and my bow is whisper quiet and shooting 275 fps it isn't something I am gonna lose any sleep over.

My own opinion is people give too much credit to a deer's reaction to sound without considering the deer's mindset at the time. If a deer is as calm as can be and just carrying on without a care in the world then he is not gonna be as likely to react to a tiny sound as a deer that is on alert and just knows something isn't right. They both will hear the sound but one is anticipating it........almost expecting it........the other thinks he is in no danger. The sound is a total surprise to one and not the other.

Of course, I have to consider that if you have deer jumping your string all the time or spooking at bow ranges frequently maybe it is YOU that should look into quieter or faster equipment or just stop clanging around in your stand like a one man band when you see a deer.

Maybe you have a hard time keeping your emotions under control and in your excitement you either make a poor shot or spook them off. Naturally, creating a fairy tale about how they jumped your string or have super sonic hearing powers will sooth your fragile ego and reassure you that you are still a great hunter because after all how can anyone be expected to get close to an animal that can hear soft throat grunts at over a mile away??

It is obvious from your previous exaggerations and quotes like this

that you are one of those guys that has been brainwashed into thinking the whitetail is some mythical creature that has super senses and is just about unhuntable to mere mortal men. It is painfully obvious to everyone but you that people create this mythical imagery for selfish reasons...........so that when you harvest one of these ghosts of the woods you will feel that much better about YOURSELF.........you can pretend your self serving imagination is some lame attempt at honoring the deer but you have a better chance at getting people to believe your grunting story

To be fair, wouldn't one need to compare the time it takes the arrow to hit home against the combined time the sound reaches the deers ears and it takes it to react?

Shoot at a calm deer at normal distances, and I don't care how loud your bow is, if you do your part, the deer's going down.