2004 BOWTECH SPECS
 

OK Folks… here they are: 2004 BowTech specs

INFINITY SINGLE CAM BOWS

Extreme VFT Brace: 6 & 5/8” Peak Weights: 40,50, 60, 70 Draw Lengths: 25-30 AtoA:34 & 1/16” Mass Weight: 3lbs 12 oz IBO speed: 325-333 FPS

Sampson VFT Same specs as ExVFT but available in 80, 90 & 100 pound peaks weights

Patriot VFT Brace: 7” Peak weights: 50,60,70,80 Draw Lengths: 25-30 AtoA: 33” Mass Meight: 3lbs 12oz IBO speed: 320-328 FPS

MightyMite VFT Brace: 7 & ¾” Peak Weights: 50,60,70 Draw Lengths: 25-30 AtoA: 30 & ½” Mass Weight: 3lbs 8oz. IBO Speeds: 314-322 FPS

BlackHawk Brace: 8” Peak weights: 40,50,60,70 Draw Lengths: 25-30 AtoA: 28 & 7/8” Mass Weight: 2lbs 13oz. IBO Speeds: 309-317 FPS

TomKat Brace: 9 & 1/8” Peak weights: 60,70 Draw Lengths: 27-32 AtoA: 31” Mass weight: 3 lbs IBO speeds: 284-292 FPS


Ok now for the FREEDOM SINGLE CAM bows:

Pro-40 Brace: 8 & ¼” Peak Weights: 50,60,70 Draw Lengths: 27-32 AtoA: 37 & ½” Mass Weight: 4lbs 3 oz IBO Speeds: 292-300 FPS

Liberty VFT Brace: 7 &1/2” Peak Weights: 50,60,70,80 Draw Lengths:: 25-30 AtoA:33 & ¼” Mass weight: 3lbs 14oz IBO speeds: 300-308 FPS

Justice VFT Brace: 8” Peak weights: 50,60,70,80 Draw Lengths: 25-30 AtoA: 31 & ¼” Mass Weight: 3lbs 12oz IBO speeds: 296-304 FPS


DUAL CAM BOWS

Pro 40 Dually Brace:7” Peak Weights: 50,60,70 Draw Lengths: 26-31 AtoA: 37 & 1/8” Mass Weight: 4lbs 1oz IBO speeds: 328-336 FPS

Pro 40 Wheely Brace: 7 & ¼” Peak Weights: 40,50,60,70,80 Draw Lengths: 23-30 AtoA: 38” Mass Weight: 4lbs 1oz IBO speed: 304-312 FPS

Patriot VFT Dually Brace: 7 & 5/8” Peak Weights: 50,60,70 Draw Lengths: 26-31 AtoA 35 & 1/8” Mass Weight: 3lbs 11oz IBO speed: 326-334 FPS

Black Knight Brace: 5 & ¾” Peak Weights: 50,60,70 Draw Lengths: 25-30 AtoA: 36 & ¼” Mass Weight: 3lbs 11oz IBO speed: 342-350 FPS


RASCAL SINGLE CAM BOWS

BlackHawk 2 Brace: 7 & ½” Peak Weights: 30,40,50,60 Draw Lengths: 20-26” AtoA: 29” Mass Weight: 2lbs 12oz IBO speed: 262-270 FPS (60 pound weight, 26” draw length 5 grains per pound)

LadyHawk Brace: 7 & ½” Peak Weights: 30,40,50,60 Draw Lengths: 20-26” AtoA: 29” Mass Weight: 2lbs 12oz IBO speed: 262-270 FPS (60 pound weight, 26” draw length 5 grains per pound)

Rascal Brace: 7 & ¼” Peak Weights: 20,30,40 Draw Lengths: 19-25” AtoA: 24 & ½” Mass Weight: 2lbs IBO speeds: 256-262 FPS (40 pound weight, 25” draw length, 5 grains per Lb)



Just some notes:

Catalogs are going to be going out November 1st. No concrete date on ship times.

The following bows will have the new risers with pivoting pockets, and the new grip: Patriot VFT, MightyMite VFT, Pro 40 Freedom cam, Liberty VFT, Justice VFT, Pro 40 Dually, Patriot VFT dually and the Black Knight.

Ok..all for now…please feel free to ask questions. I’ll do my best to get an answer. We may get some pics this week, but no promises. :D

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I will take a Mighty Might VFT and a Liberty please....hold the salt....

:D

Seriously, I love the new lineup...though I am particularly partial to the " Shorties" . I am also rather interested in seeing how some of the new components/designs add to the Bowtech lineup.

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I like what Bowtech has accomplished in their short time in the industry. However, for my personal tastes the Patriot is still the best bow they ever made. So, I will hang on to my Patriot unless they come up with something that hits the following specs:

Patriot VFT Brace: 7& ¾” Peak weights: 50,60,70,80 Draw Lengths: 25-30 AtoA: 34” Mass Meight: 3lbs 12oz IBO speed: 320-328 FPS

I just can' t give up the brace height for a few extra fps. The Mighty Mite would fit the bill, but I just don' t shoot the shorties very well.

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I know this is a minor issue but what about target colors? Have the come up with anything new? The plane jane solid colors just dont get it.

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Are they making the BK2 with the Tall Brace Height again?

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No, only the short: 5 3/4"

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JeffB, Any word on the new string material? Ultra Cam?????

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What do you here about the Freedom cam Jeff? A new config for a smoother draw?

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Trushot,
That sounds about the jist of it!
Here' s some quotes I pulled from the first BowTech 2004 thread:.

" These two new bows will have a brand new ultra-smooth single-cam design with a 4” idler called the Freedom Cam. IBO speeds are in the low 300’s (still pretty damn respectable AFAIC)."
(JeffB)

" Ya' ll are gonna crap when you shoot the new bows. The Liberty is definately the smoothest drawing and smoothest shooting bow I' ve shot to date... (and no I haven' t shot every bow out there but I' ve shot quite a few)"
(He use the word Ya' ll.....Obviously BowTech_Shooter;))

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I guess that answers my question. No ' 04 bowtech for me :( :( :(

On the bright side, maybe I' ll find a good deal on a tall brace ' 03 BK.

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WAIT! There' s hope yet!

One of the options I was considering was a smooth drawing 80# bow. Perhaps the Liberty will fit the bill after all...

I wonder how it draws compared to the CPS or Omega cam? Bowtech Shooter?

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Rangeball,
Don' t dispair! :D
Have you looked the Pro40 Dually? I think the reason that you are not seeing an Option II Black Knight is that the Pro40 Dually basically fills that spot. I think they would be so close in specs that they just decided in favor of offering the Pro40 Dually.
So basically they have a low brace BKII " Burner" and the higher brace version just in a different name Pro40 Dually, with even more shooter friendly specs.
Those numbers are impressive! Mid 330' s at 7" brace height, almost the same ATA as the BKII?
With the refined duals w/ bearings and better draw cycles ,that is going to be a heck of a bow!

Did that brighten the day any?:)

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Hey Folks,

I’m sorry… I’m a bit busy the next few days, so my answers may be infrequent except in the evenings.

The BKII tall brace has been phased out. The Pro40 DC takes up that mantle. Similar measurements, slightly higher brace, and similar speeds to the 2003 BKP tall brace.

Target colors are still being ironed out, and I advise everyone to contact their local BowTech dealer or wait for the catalog and see what the final word is. I don’t have any info on colors whatsoever.

Freedom cam is supposed to be a really smooth easy drawing cam. BowTechShooter told me that the 70 pound Liberty he was shooting at the factory was easier to draw and smoother shooting than his 58 pound 2003 Patriot SC. I think that says it all. 80 pounder for me too Range.

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I dunno Matt, to be honest, as a hunter, I don' t usually even give a 40" ata bow a first glance, but on second glance this " 40" is only 37.5" , so it' s closer. I guess Pro 37.5 just doesn' t roll off the tounge as well... :)

As for it' s speeds, 328-336 versus the 342-350 of the ' 03 BK tall may not do what I want it to do, which is fling a 500 grain arrow 270+ fps. I had calculated the BK to do 271-277 fps, the ' 04 " 40" with the same calculations would do 259-266. Close, but no cigar, and not much more than my Hornet does currently.

In all likelihood I' ll never hunt an elephant or cape buffalo, so I don' t really know why I think I need all this powah, I guess it' s cause you long arm guys have it so I want it too :) I' d probably be better off getting a smooooooth drawing, very very easy to aim and shoot accurately bow with at least the the same power I now have (70' #s of ke), and switch from large cut mechanicals for deer to cut on impact heads if I feel additional penetration is needed, like should I ever get the opportunity to hunt hogs. Until then, it' s whitetails and turkeys only, and my hornet zips them through fast enough.

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Hey Rangeball, My ' 03 Pat dually is doing 254 fps at 66 pounds and 29 inches with a 540 grain 2315!!! I' ll tell you that is enough for me, over 77 ft lbs. of K.E. Also with a 7 3/4 inch brace. I turned it up to max at 71 pounds and I got 269 fps with a 523 grain arrow for 83.7 ft.lbs.:D
The addition of the bearings will make these bows even more effecient and will feel even smoother[:o] Man I can' t wait to see the new camo and that new cam!!!

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No Tall BK2, that' s disappointing, that is what I was thinking about ordering. I think the 04 Pro 40 DC should be faster than what they are listing, check out the 03 specs.

03 vs 04
BH 7 3/8 vs 7
A to A 38 vs 37 1/8
IBO 329-337fps vs 328-336fps

Not being critical, well maybe a little, but the Tall BK2 was 6 3/4" bh, 36" a to a, and 342-350fps.

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Walks, that' s real close to what my hornet does with a similar set up. It' s not a bowtech, but it does have a bowtech cam :)

Does bowtech deliver dead on draw lengths, or is a 29" draw really 29.5-.75?

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Rangeball-

Some say dead on, others say at least 1/2" long. I' m ordering 28" & 29" modules and hopefully I' ll be able to get to 28.5" without having to wait months to get 28.5" mods.

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I noticed the slight speed drops too on the duals. I suspect it’s just that many people B&M’ed about the draw cycle, so Kevin softened it up some, and then used the bearings and a little less brace to get the speed back pretty close to what it was for 03. also this “new string material” may account for some that, depending on the material.

I personally am glad to see it happen. The 2003 cams were fast and accurate, but too extreme for my tastes @ my normal hunting poundages, and I’m one who is much less inclined to whine about draw cycles than most. Once I get over 285-290 FPS, I start throttling bows back anyways.

The other thing I’m looking forward to seeing about the new duals is “where” is the efficiency? The BK2 cams were extremely efficient w/ light arrows (and no slouch with heavy arrows either). I lost very little KE for a significant drop in arrow weight with my BKII op2 because it picked up speed at a higher than normal rate. The 2003 cams seemed to like heavy arrows better. I’m anxious to see where these new cams fall. I’m thinking these will be similar to the BKII cams. Word is also that they are much less finicky about synch than the 2003’s (so much that they dropped the tuner option for 2004)

As far as draw lengths: My DC PAT from last year was supplied w/ the incorrect cable lengths and ran 28 & 7/8” for a 28” module. Once I got the right cables on it ran 28.25”. The last several Bowtechs I’ve had have probably averaged about 3/8”. I had a 2000 ES that was an inch over spec. But every other one I’ve owned has been within 1/2" (except the DC PAT flub). It actually works out well for me on the singles cause it’s usually about ½” long @ 80% letoff and when I shorten the stop to my preferred 60-65% letoff it’s right around 29” AMO which is perfect for me w/ a loop.

I have my mind made up mostly…I know I’m going to get a Liberty, which should be perfect on the ground or in the trees (if my back will allow it next year) and I’ve worked (begged, actually :D) a second bow into the budget…I’m really interested in the Justice VFT and new Mighty Mite VFT as much as I am the improved DC PAT. That second bow will be a tough choice..there’s just too many bows I want from this lineup. Hell I’ve wanted an ExVFT for awhile, and I STILL want one of those..I' m nearly ready to draw straws for # 2 :D

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Range, My Pro 40 Dually is dead on 29 inches and my Pat Dually is about 3/8 of an Inch long. Don' t forget that the modules are available in 1/2 inch increments!!! You can get exactly what you want:D Yes those Diamonds are good little bows, Kevin had a little something to do with those cams too;)

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I too want to know how the draw lengths are running on the ' 04 models.

As an owner of 5 Bowtechs over the last 2 years, I never bought into this designed " cam lean" on my ' 03 bows. Has this been designed out of the ' 04 models?

Thanks.

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Actually the 04' s are SEVERAL fps faster than the 03' s, if you set them on the same draw and poundage,[8D] the 04' s run EXACT on draw lengths.:D

Rangeball if you tell me what # and draw length you have I will shoot a 500 grain arrow and report the speed.[:o] Also which bows would you like me to test at this set up.

Usually we rate the bows at the very top speed we get. The 04' s are rated 2 - 3 fps off the very top speed for the top end of the range we give. EX: a speed rating of 328 - 336 actually is shooting 339, but you can' t get every bow to shoot the top, so we backed off the rating just enough to try and ensure all bows hit the high side of our ratings.:)

I have a few 04 Duals that are 12 - 14 fps faster than 03' s set up exactly the same, appless to apples.;)

My pick for 04' is the Patriot VFT and the Black Knight, my BK has a 6" brace.:D:)

I love these faces.[>:]

Kevin Strother

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[:o]

This is great to hear! :)

Pardon me, but LOL:D. What other bow company Engineer/VP would come to an internet forum and offer to do this for a prospective customer? ![:o] Most excellent

My personal fave is this: [:-]

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Kevin, Wow... I almost pm' d you to ask, but I figured you were way to busy and didn' t want to put you on the spot, but since you offered :)

28 3/4" draw, 70#, 500 grain arrow- Liberty Freedom, Patriot Dually, Pro40 Dually. If you could also test the Liberty at 80#s, that' d be great!

Thanks a ton!

I like this one :D

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Kevin.

Seeing you offered how about a Black Knight 60# 28" draw 350gr arrow[:-]

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Heck I never got my manual/book for mt Wheely, never mine about the 04' s what about the 03 customers.

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I think I may have to write a letter to Santa.

The Liberty and Justice are very interesting.

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Harley,

The early 2003' s were not shipped with manuals (printing problems) , but were shipped to dealers afterwards when they became available. A note was put in each bow box explaining the situation. Your dealer should have received your manuals in the spring.

The 2003 manual has been available for free download on the BowTech website for several months too. Check out www.bowtecharchery.com

Hope that helps.

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Kevin,
First of all, thanks for taking the time to visit this site and answer our questions. Very impressive.
You say your BK has a brace height of 6 inches, did you set it that way yourself or do they come with a slightly higher brace than the specs? Can you compare the shootability/ forgiveness of the 04 BK 2 to the 02 BK 2 that I am currently shooting. Thank you.

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OK...

Anyone know how to convert a PDF to a JPEG? :D:D:D:D:D:D

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Kevin, is there any way you could test the same bow you' re using for Rangeball with a 400gr arrow? and a 375gr arrow? Those are the 3 bows I was looking at anyways. Thanks alot,

Timba

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Kevin, I thought of this on the way home last night. If you have an ' 03 BK tall brace around, could you through it into the mix as well?

If it' s too late, I fully understand...

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I now shoot the pro 40 dually 2003 model and love it but would like to know if the new 2004 models will be a little less top heavy. I have to put a lot of weight on the back side when I put my 3d setup which is a sureloc and long stabilzer on this bow. I even took all of the weights out of my aep stab. to try and get it balenced it is shootable but not perfect. I am looking forward to shooting the 2004 when they come out. BOWTECH ROCKS!

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If you want a hard copy of the owners manual, e-mail me your mailing address at [email protected]

Regards, Pat

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Not to be a nuisance, but I would still would like to know if the designed ' 03 cam lean has been designed out of the ' 04 models.

Thanks.

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Hey Mez, e-mail me at; [email protected] and we' ll talk. I got your PM and I' d like to reply directly, Russ.;)

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Rangeball here are the results set to the specs you requested.

70#, 28 3/4" draw

Liberty 500 gr = 254 fps, 400 gr = 280, 375 gr = 289

Mighty Mite VFT 500 gr = 263, 400 gr = 291, 375 gr = 298

Patriot Dual 500 gr = 273, 400 gr = 303, 375 gr = 314

Pro 40 Dual 500 gr = 276, 400 gr = 302, 375 gr = 311

Patriot VFT 500 gr = 270, 400 gr = 297, 375 gr = 307


Patriot 70# 30" draw 350 gr = 332 fps

BK2 @ 60# 28" draw 500 gr = 260, 400 gr = 290, 375 gr = 300


I hope this answers some of your ??????????

Kevin, I edited this to show the Mighty Mite VFT to help avoid any confusion

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Thanks Kevin.
It certainly has answered my questions.;)

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Now that' s a beautifull thing. Very cool Kevin Thanks!

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Kevin,
Just curious........do you have the Liberty and Justice reversed on your speed test?
On the spec chart the Liberty is listed as the faster of the 2 bows?

Thanks for taking the time to do that........those are some impressive numbers![8D]