280fps Best I can Do?
02-02-2002, 05:54 AM
#12
Nontypical Buck
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RE: 280fps Best I can Do?
I dearly love Hoyt bows, but out of the dozen or two I have owned and hundreds I sold I could never obtain a listed AMO, or IBO speed..at least at AMO draw lengths. My Defiant is the only real high performance Hoyt I have owned, and that's because I "hotrodded" it w/ a cam they did not offer anymore.
My HypertTec was a great shooter, but hardly the speed bow it was cracked up to be.
I do not remember if the 2002 ctalog is the same but many years Hoyt will have one listed speed and brace height for each model. This is always the fastest version w/ the lowest brace. For this year that would be a C2 model.
JeffB
My HypertTec was a great shooter, but hardly the speed bow it was cracked up to be.
I do not remember if the 2002 ctalog is the same but many years Hoyt will have one listed speed and brace height for each model. This is always the fastest version w/ the lowest brace. For this year that would be a C2 model.
JeffB
02-02-2002, 05:36 PM
#13
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RE: 280fps Best I can Do?
Ok, Update I have been able to get 286 FPS out of my CyberTec This is How and Why.
My versa Cam is set to Cam Position C and stop peg 3
If H = 30" then Cam Position C = 27 1/2 " Stop Pin 3 = 80% let off
But in my frustration I moved the stop pin from postion 3 to 4. My owners manual says that will lengthen my draw 3/16 of a inch. this is how I hit 286fps. I looked on there chart and position C and pin 4 is not there but it works and 6 fps faster even.
So the Final numbers are
Draw = 27.7" Weight = 71lbs Arrow = 358gr Speed= 286Fps.
My versa Cam is set to Cam Position C and stop peg 3
If H = 30" then Cam Position C = 27 1/2 " Stop Pin 3 = 80% let off
But in my frustration I moved the stop pin from postion 3 to 4. My owners manual says that will lengthen my draw 3/16 of a inch. this is how I hit 286fps. I looked on there chart and position C and pin 4 is not there but it works and 6 fps faster even.
So the Final numbers are
Draw = 27.7" Weight = 71lbs Arrow = 358gr Speed= 286Fps.
02-03-2002, 06:54 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: 280fps Best I can Do?
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Has anybody ever had a bow made by anyone other than Bowtech which would really do its stated IBO speed?
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Darton models will, as well as Merlin.
Old XI's, The Oregon BK, Early HCA models, and some of the really hard to draw old Martins woul(Maverick, Impala w/ XL cams). Mathews used to as well back in the early to mid 90's.
JeffB
Has anybody ever had a bow made by anyone other than Bowtech which would really do its stated IBO speed?
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Darton models will, as well as Merlin.
Old XI's, The Oregon BK, Early HCA models, and some of the really hard to draw old Martins woul(Maverick, Impala w/ XL cams). Mathews used to as well back in the early to mid 90's.
JeffB
02-03-2002, 07:45 AM
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RE: 280fps Best I can Do?
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Ok, Update I have been able to get 286 FPS out of my CyberTec This is How and Why.
My versa Cam is set to Cam Position C and stop peg 3
If H = 30" then Cam Position C = 27 1/2 " Stop Pin 3 = 80% let off
But in my frustration I moved the stop pin from postion 3 to 4. My owners manual says that will lengthen my draw 3/16 of a inch. this is how I hit 286fps. I looked on there chart and position C and pin 4 is not there but it works and 6 fps faster even.
So the Final numbers are
Draw = 27.7" Weight = 71lbs Arrow = 358gr Speed= 286Fps.
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I am assuming this is your true long length? Measured to the pivot point of the handle.
If so then the speed you're getting is exactly what "The Archery Program" predicted.
MQ1Shooter-
I would say that better than 90% of the published specs that manufactures publish are accurate. I believe that I am qualified to answer this based on my experience actually testing bows during the development of my software. When it comes to the Big Boys like Hoyt, PSE, Martin and Mathews I would say that their specs approach >95% accauracy. It seems like the smaller companies actually bring the average down a tad with fudged figures maybe hoping to sell a few more bows.
>>>------Tony Virnoche------>>>
>>>---The Archery Program--->>>
Ok, Update I have been able to get 286 FPS out of my CyberTec This is How and Why.
My versa Cam is set to Cam Position C and stop peg 3
If H = 30" then Cam Position C = 27 1/2 " Stop Pin 3 = 80% let off
But in my frustration I moved the stop pin from postion 3 to 4. My owners manual says that will lengthen my draw 3/16 of a inch. this is how I hit 286fps. I looked on there chart and position C and pin 4 is not there but it works and 6 fps faster even.
So the Final numbers are
Draw = 27.7" Weight = 71lbs Arrow = 358gr Speed= 286Fps.
<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' size=2 id=quote>
I am assuming this is your true long length? Measured to the pivot point of the handle.
If so then the speed you're getting is exactly what "The Archery Program" predicted.
MQ1Shooter-
I would say that better than 90% of the published specs that manufactures publish are accurate. I believe that I am qualified to answer this based on my experience actually testing bows during the development of my software. When it comes to the Big Boys like Hoyt, PSE, Martin and Mathews I would say that their specs approach >95% accauracy. It seems like the smaller companies actually bring the average down a tad with fudged figures maybe hoping to sell a few more bows.
>>>------Tony Virnoche------>>>
>>>---The Archery Program--->>>
