Infinity cam draw stop flaw? (long)
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02 mighty mite...lots of shots through it, but still...
After doing a techno hunt the other day I noticed some severe cable wear (so much so I didn' t finish) in a single spot that looked like a cut.
Scour the cam looking for a burr, wax buildup with sand in it, a bend on the lip, misalignment from the module and cam surfaces...nothing.
Have one of the " tecs" take a look ...nothing. He replaces the cable and we' re good. After a minute or so I realize my godforsaken string leeches have been launched 3/4 of the way out again and I' m over it now. 3rd time in 2 weeks the ends get blown off or they just sail away into the sky.
Hello whiskers...serve ' em in. The first guy I was dealing with is gone...the owner(who does indeed know his stuff) says he' ll hook me up. Has me shoot and arrow or two and says " your draw stop is screwed up, come back here" .
He puts in on the scale and pulls. " See where the cam rolls over? Your way to far beyond that point...we need to shorten it up."
??? Why? I thought the beauty of the infinty was the adjustbility of the stop to change length, letoff (and valley for sure!).
He says if you have it set too far past the roll it' ll eat your cable at the pivot..right about here (pointing to where my cables was 4 strands shy 20 minutes ago)
He didn' t know I just had that problem fixed (he was upstairs). But he adjusts it and I put a loop on to make up the difference.
Shooting rockets again after 10-15 minutes but what the hell was that about the drawstop??
After doing a techno hunt the other day I noticed some severe cable wear (so much so I didn' t finish) in a single spot that looked like a cut.
Scour the cam looking for a burr, wax buildup with sand in it, a bend on the lip, misalignment from the module and cam surfaces...nothing.
Have one of the " tecs" take a look ...nothing. He replaces the cable and we' re good. After a minute or so I realize my godforsaken string leeches have been launched 3/4 of the way out again and I' m over it now. 3rd time in 2 weeks the ends get blown off or they just sail away into the sky.
Hello whiskers...serve ' em in. The first guy I was dealing with is gone...the owner(who does indeed know his stuff) says he' ll hook me up. Has me shoot and arrow or two and says " your draw stop is screwed up, come back here" .
He puts in on the scale and pulls. " See where the cam rolls over? Your way to far beyond that point...we need to shorten it up."
??? Why? I thought the beauty of the infinty was the adjustbility of the stop to change length, letoff (and valley for sure!).
He says if you have it set too far past the roll it' ll eat your cable at the pivot..right about here (pointing to where my cables was 4 strands shy 20 minutes ago)
He didn' t know I just had that problem fixed (he was upstairs). But he adjusts it and I put a loop on to make up the difference.
Shooting rockets again after 10-15 minutes but what the hell was that about the drawstop??
#2
And I quote 
“ The infinity cam has a machined slot to incorporate all the settings necessary for all of the Bowtech models. Each model at each draw length makes up a very small area of the machined slot….
Make sure that the post stops the draw cycle. If the post is not stopping the draw cycle you are over-rotating the cam and may damage your strings and cables. You will need to adjust the post closer to the S slot to recitify this”…..Bowtech Owners Manual
This also happens if the post is not set correctly but the stop is contacting the limb: IF you have the post setting set for too much letoff. There is a very small range you have to work in for each draw length module. If you set it just a bit too high (letoff) it will hit the cable track first and then bottom on the limb immediately after. It is infinitely adjustable with the parameters for each module, not over the entire draw stop adjustment range for any module regardless.
The manual has the recommended settings for each letoff and draw length.
Hope that helps.

“ The infinity cam has a machined slot to incorporate all the settings necessary for all of the Bowtech models. Each model at each draw length makes up a very small area of the machined slot….
Make sure that the post stops the draw cycle. If the post is not stopping the draw cycle you are over-rotating the cam and may damage your strings and cables. You will need to adjust the post closer to the S slot to recitify this”…..Bowtech Owners Manual
This also happens if the post is not set correctly but the stop is contacting the limb: IF you have the post setting set for too much letoff. There is a very small range you have to work in for each draw length module. If you set it just a bit too high (letoff) it will hit the cable track first and then bottom on the limb immediately after. It is infinitely adjustable with the parameters for each module, not over the entire draw stop adjustment range for any module regardless.
The manual has the recommended settings for each letoff and draw length.
Hope that helps.
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Ahhh...So I AM retarded
Just as I suspected.
Thanks Jeff,
Soo...the draw stop isn' t supposed to hit the limb? I put moleskin there and lock it down every time I draw!
Just as I suspected.
Thanks Jeff,
Soo...the draw stop isn' t supposed to hit the limb? I put moleskin there and lock it down every time I draw!
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T-A,
YES the draw stop should definitely hit the limb. You just need to make sure you don' t have the letoff/valley set too high/wide otherwise the cable will bottom on the track first ,then it overrotates just a tad as you draw to the wall (Causing the wear), then the stop hits the limb directly after.
You cannot " feel" this really unless it' s way out of whack.You have to see it like your pro-shop did under most circumstances.
You can download the manual at www.bowtecharchery.com (both 2002 & 2003 manuals are listed). It will show the post settings for each model, draw length, and letoff.

YES the draw stop should definitely hit the limb. You just need to make sure you don' t have the letoff/valley set too high/wide otherwise the cable will bottom on the track first ,then it overrotates just a tad as you draw to the wall (Causing the wear), then the stop hits the limb directly after.
You cannot " feel" this really unless it' s way out of whack.You have to see it like your pro-shop did under most circumstances.
You can download the manual at www.bowtecharchery.com (both 2002 & 2003 manuals are listed). It will show the post settings for each model, draw length, and letoff.

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You da man Jeff. I downloaded the manual...was I supposed to READ it too!
Should be set now...
I must have ahd it just slightly overrotated. I usually keep the valley really tight but widened it just a bit 3 weeks ago in case I had to hold a long draw while waiting for him to turn broadside
Thans again.

Should be set now...
I must have ahd it just slightly overrotated. I usually keep the valley really tight but widened it just a bit 3 weeks ago in case I had to hold a long draw while waiting for him to turn broadside

Thans again.
#8
Jeffb, I made my own module for my 2002 mighty mite. I took a 30" and ground it down to a 29.5. (the 2002' s are whole increment only and the 29" was way too short, the 30" was too long)
Not knowing where the draw stop peg should go I placed it between the manuals recommendations for the 29" & 30" draws. IYHO did I do the right thing?
What do I need to look for as far as over rotating goes?
I would like to go a little more towards the long side to get a little more valley, but I can' t afford anymore draw length gain.
After season I may grind it down just a tad more to accomplish this.
Not knowing where the draw stop peg should go I placed it between the manuals recommendations for the 29" & 30" draws. IYHO did I do the right thing?
What do I need to look for as far as over rotating goes?
I would like to go a little more towards the long side to get a little more valley, but I can' t afford anymore draw length gain.
After season I may grind it down just a tad more to accomplish this.
#9
DaveC,
IMHO, grinding parts on the bow is not the best thing to do (especially cams/mods), and it voids your warranty, but people do it all the time ...:shrug:
Of course now half-inch mods are available, but they won' t fit the 2002' s.
That said, I think you probably set the stop in a good position. Just have someone draw it for you while you watch the cam rotate and make sure that the cable doesn' t fully bottom, over-rotate, and then the stop hits the limb. It' e easier to show than to explain. But if you take the stop out and draw the bow you will see when the cable fully bottoms then turns at a sharp angle as the cam over-rotates.
As for lengtheninig it...as long as you adhere to the advice I posted from the manual you should be OK.
Personally I' m the opposite. I set the stop pretty short at around 60-65%% letoff. I just shoot more accurately that way and the drop into the valley is not nearly as abrupt.
IMHO, grinding parts on the bow is not the best thing to do (especially cams/mods), and it voids your warranty, but people do it all the time ...:shrug:

Of course now half-inch mods are available, but they won' t fit the 2002' s.
That said, I think you probably set the stop in a good position. Just have someone draw it for you while you watch the cam rotate and make sure that the cable doesn' t fully bottom, over-rotate, and then the stop hits the limb. It' e easier to show than to explain. But if you take the stop out and draw the bow you will see when the cable fully bottoms then turns at a sharp angle as the cam over-rotates.
As for lengtheninig it...as long as you adhere to the advice I posted from the manual you should be OK.
Personally I' m the opposite. I set the stop pretty short at around 60-65%% letoff. I just shoot more accurately that way and the drop into the valley is not nearly as abrupt.
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Hey Russel...I thought you were still hiding from Porky
I' m talking to a buddy from mine in Abilene for a hog hunt next year...how far are you from there? Maybe I' ll let you buy me a beer

I' m talking to a buddy from mine in Abilene for a hog hunt next year...how far are you from there? Maybe I' ll let you buy me a beer


