I' m actually more surprised that the companies are not expected to sell their items within their advertised tolerances and are getting away with it. They are the real crooks.

Ever hear the term " accomplice?"

Manufacturers generally do not sell directly to the individual buyer. You have to go through a dealer. If the dealer knows that a product is not up to par as advertised, why is he or she carrying the product and selling the product knowing that the product is deficient? That does not make the manufacturer the only culprit.

I wonder how the manufacturers would respond to dealers if the dealers were to (always) cull the arrows and send back the bad ones? Is it asking too much that a dealer assure that his customer is getting a reliable product and what the customer paid for?

If a dealer of any store knowingly selling any faulty/unreliable product was to tell me that I have to take it or leave it, and pay full price for doing so (take it), guess where I no longer go… and also tell others to not go?

I' d leave it. Just like you would. Thats our personal choice. If it is not what we need, is outside of our needed tolerances, we just don' t buy it. But I wouldn' t blame the whole thing on the dealer. I believe the original problem originates with the companies not properly quality controling the tolerances of the advertised product. That' s all.

I can repect the dealer that is being honest with me and telling me what I am getting. It is the dealer who knows, is being deceptive, and does not disclose the possible problem, is the one that I have a problem with.

Where can anyone go and pick through arrows until they have a perfect dozen?Didn' t know there was such a place.I know i wouldn' t want to order a dozen to find out they were ALL unacceptable.

It is that kind of customer mentality that has allowed so much junk to saturate this nation and so much worthless and detrimental junk to permeate the bowhunting sport. Like it makes everything ok if a dealer is honest and tells you that he or she knows he or she is selling faulty products, and if you want it you will still pay full price. My question is; why is the dealer selling a product that is known to be imperfect?

It appears to me that such misdirected thinking is popularity guided. If the person or business that is selling the faulty product is well liked, then he, she, it, is doing nothing wrong. It is the fault of someone else.

I wonder how that circumstance came to be and is able to thrive??

No place that I know of.

But that doesn' t stop me from returning defective merchandise. If a shaft is not within it' s advertised tolerances, then it is a manufacturing flaw and it is defective. I have a right as a consumer to expect it to be replaced.

When you buy a dozen eggs, do you expect that you' ll only eat 5 or 6 and the rest will be rotten?

Excellent point!

If the dealer allows you take the arrows home and then in a reasonable time period return any defective arrows for exchange until you acquire a complete set of arrows within the advertised tolerances, that is ok.

c3po,

That question is so naive and stupid on so many levels that there is really no need to answer it.

I didn' t thoroughly read every post so this may repeat what has been said but here goes. I don' t blame anyone for not allowing ' selecting' . That is a whole different issue than shafts meeting specs. if tolerences are .006 someone would want to select .003, etc. Soon the only arrows left for buyers who don' t know how to pick through will be the lower end even if they are within specs. In the tuning trilogy that this started out to be I think the arrows have the least impact. I am the biggest problem in tuning followed closely by the bow and least of all the arrow. My bow isn' t as finely tuned as I would like but it will put a variety of arrows in pretty much the same place. In a hunting situation with good ethics an inch or two won' t matter.

ARTHUR,
I agree with your last post but i thought i heard you talking about making tomato stakes with the less than perfect arrows--or maybe it wasn' t you and i' m mistaken?