Correctly Spined and weighted arrows?

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11-18-2008 | 08:40 AM

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drockw

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RE: Correctly Spined and weighted arrows?

I bet his bow is LOUD!!! With my Victory arrows at 5.01gpp my bow is significantly louder.
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11-18-2008 | 08:46 AM

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RE: Correctly Spined and weighted arrows?

Well, I have only heard it in the Gander Mountain Range. The acoustics in there are terrible and even the quietest bow would sound like a 30-06. Not a fair assessment.

11-18-2008 | 08:47 AM

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RE: Correctly Spined and weighted arrows?

Still, it probably is very loud.

11-18-2008 | 09:01 AM

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Not to hijack the thread Black Stick, but what do you guys do if you in between arrow selection. I'm shooting 27" arrows and 70Lbs, always seems to fall in between for carbon express arrows. I've hunted both 250s and 350s. Any particular insight?

Kelly,
You can shoot a little longer arrow to balance out the spine if you need to. I don't know why so many guys "think" they have to shoot a 26" arrow out of their 28" draw bow, butthat's really not the case. They could shoot a 30" arrow out of it too, and may be better off if they can get a 30" arrow "right-spined" vs. a 26" arrow under or overspined.

I'm a firm believer that keeping and extra 1-2" on an arrow to get you into the right spine is far better than adding tip weight to try to weaken the spine on a shorter arrow, and ballistically an arrow flying out of a compound seems to hold it's energy a little better than a short bolt flying out of a crossbow from my experiences.

Doug, I think most of it has to do with BH price these days. I know it does for me. I mostly shoot traditional and changing head wieght expensive. The days of 25 dollars for 6 BH's are over. So most like to use what that got, which is typically 100gr and for some 125gr. So you do like most of us and make the arrow work for the head. Which is easy enough, just cut it down. And with most rests these days, one can shoot 3" at most shorter than thier draw.

I litterly own a fortune in bh's for trad. From 100gr to 125gr, to 150gr, to 190gr, to 200gr.

11-18-2008 | 09:12 AM

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Black Stick

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RE: Correctly Spined and weighted arrows?

I might buy that 200 grain to put on my desk like a novelty pen.

11-18-2008 | 09:54 AM

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I might buy that 200 grain to put on my desk like a novelty pen.

They are muzzy phantoms. I use em on my longbow arrows.

I also use Simmons interceptors 190gr.

11-18-2008 | 10:54 AM

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I was shooting at Gander Mountain the other night and there was a guy shooting CX Maxima 250s with 75 grain tips trough a 70# 82nd Airborne with a 29" DL. I don't remember how much he said they weighed, but they are clearly less than 5 gpp. Wouldn't that void the warranty on the limbs? On to under-spining. I know for a fact that he should be shooting 350s at those specs. Couldn't he possibly snap an arrow into my arm if I am on the line with him? I asked him why he is doing this and he said, "to get to 350 fps." This isn't a young guy, he is at least 40 and a total jerk.

He said that as long as he cuts the arrows shorter (28"), they are not under-spined. He also said that as long as you have a string stop, the 5 gpp rule does not apply.

I tried to explain to him that my arrows carry more momentum than his because they weigh more, but he wasn't having any of it. What do you guys make of this?

He is underspined, but can get away with it with a short enough arrow and light enough tip.

The only saving grace he has on gr/lb is 29" draw length. He is not that far from 5gr/lb. He is more like 4.7gr/lb. I seriously doubt he is pulling out 350fps.

Anyway it goes, I like 7gpp. It safe, quieter, less handshock. Just make sense.

BC's CORRECT!!!!

Actually, according to OT2, if he were down to 26.5" he'd be coming in just a hair on the weak side, and 26.25 would hit right midline, but the weight ain't gonna be anywhere near what would be recommended from what I'm punching in. But that's his prerogative, he's certainly putting a lot of stress on his bow doing that and putting himself and potentially others at risk.

BC,
I also agree with you about the prices AND availability. It's getting hard to find 125gr head a lot of places with much variety. Heck, even in a couple of the "PRO" shops I've been in it's hard to find 125's, and anything heavier is pretty much "special order."

11-18-2008 | 11:03 AM

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RE: Correctly Spined and weighted arrows?

Exactly. I wanted to get some Simmons 185 grains for my old Hoyt before I knew more about the advantages of smaller broadheads. There wasn't a store that had them.