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SO CG, you are saying I have a shot with my massive 27 3/4 draw length LOL <img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Stealth_Force

Brace height is much like using an over draw or standard hole. The overdraw is less forgiving as the arrow is still on the string when it's very close to the rest. this makes nock height and center shot spacing more critical. Also spine becomes an issue as your arrow isn't flying PERFECTLY when you release...there is ALWAYS SOME wiggle..no matter how small.
Look at it this way...if you lay an arrow on a table, and put another arrow perpendicular to the first, under the tip of the first arrow, the top arrow is still pretty level. now as you slide the lower arrow closer to the nock you will see the tip rise. the closer you get, the FASTER it will riser (Progressive vs. linier).
This is one reason drop away rests are more foirgiving than launcher style. and why launcher style are more forgiving than a solid mount arrow rest. (seen many wisker biscuits at Vegas?)
On traditional equipment, it isn't quite as big of an issue, as archers paradox has the arrow off of the rest (or shelf) long before the bow is at rest.
As for long draws winning Vegas...there are VERY FEW pro level archers that actually FIT a 28+&quot; draw. MOST that shoot a long draw, simply are shooting TOO long of a bow. That and MOST guys with a REAL long draw, most likely got into OTHER sports for competition (Basketball? Football? Volleyball?). So the pool of archers to draw from is much smaller than what you would find in the shorter draw ranks. Yet somehow at the 3-d shoots people are always complaining about the great advantages of long draws, and how those guys should be restricted somehow (speed limits etc)

PABowhntr

That explains why I played football and basketball in high school and never got involved in the competitive side of archery!!

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CG

In 3-D speed IS king and long draw (i.e. more speed at a lower draw weight given same weight arrows) is an advantage when unknown distances come into play. But on spots and known distance accuracy is the ONLY issue in play=advantage short draw length.

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Stealth_Force

I beg to differ. accuracy, and distance judging are king and queen in 3-d. MANY of the top shots are know to shoot around 270-290fps. EVEN when they are allowed to go faster. If speed were king, all 3-ds would be won by a guy shooting a 31&quot; Bowtech BK II at 70+ lbs and 350+ fps

RobVos

Comndr45 is on the right track. It can be involved in describing it, but I wrote quite a long description in a post we had about this last year.

If you are shooting properly with a surprize release, the arrow is gone before you can possibly react. I don't buy the lenght of tine or distance on the string thing.

BTW, Dave Cousins who wins just about everything he enters has a 30+ inch AMO draw. He holds the world record for indoor FITA (shoot at the same face as vegas, only that tiny x ring is the only thing scored as a 10) with a 598. Also, I believe Jim Despart (who has won Vegas) is over 29+ for his draw length. I don't know what Hopkin's draw is but he is a big guy and probably has a longer draw.

Sagittarius

Rob,

Jeff has a 30.5&quot; draw length according to an article I read in 3-D times on him a couple of years ago.


Sag.

PABowhntr

I think what we are talking about here is the difference between theory and application. What is both reasonable and rational on paper may not necessarily be true in its actual application in all circumstances.