Well everyone after having purchased 3 dozen Blackhawk Vapors, I have had warped shafts, half a dozen have split at the nock, and they break VERY easy. Not to mention they don't fly that great with BH. I have emailed them and they blame it on me and my equipment!

They have lost a customer and I am in the hunt for some new shafts.
I have narrowed it down to the Beman ICS or the Game Tracker Carbon Express. I would like to hear what your thoughts/experiance's with these shafts would be. Thanks all in advance!

PS I have used the Bemans in the past and I did like them.

I haven't used the Carbon Express so I can't compare. I just refuse to pay top dollar for very good shafts made in Korea' The savings in wages should be passed on to the consumer. I have used the Beman ICS and have had the same problem with the nock end splitting when I whack a nock or hit something hard. You can help eliminate this by using ACC-3-60 nock inserts and G-nocks. I'm doing one better and just putting them away after hunting season and digging out my new dozen of ACC 3-28's. I know they cost a lot more but I just find them to be much more consistent than any of the other carbon shafts. Should you decide to get IC shafts I would make some general suggestions. You don't need to pick the absolute straightest (.001). You are paying a lot more money for something that doesn't matter. .003 is plenty good enough. Another thing about IC shafts is that if they are not perfectly straight the bend is usually near the ends. When you get them cut to length demand that an eaual amount be cut from each end. I hear a lot of good stuff about the Gold Tips. Check them out. Just remember. Don't buy the cheapest, but you don't need the top level either.

Similar problems here with the vapor shafts.
Right now I am shooting the easton epic shafts and no problems yet.
I have shot the Carbon express shafts before and really liked them a very durable shaft problaly will shoot them next year. I have never shot the beaman ICS hunter but my brother and some freinds do and they also seem to be a good shaft and I heck of alot smoother than vapor.
Read the thread below aout the camo vapors and you will see it is not you or the bow or acc. but you already knew it was there fault not yours, and so did they I bet.

Edited by - bigcountry25 on 10/27/2002 10:13:39

I used Carbon Express CXL 150's for the first time this year, and fell in love with them. They group extraordinarily well, and I am getting the benefit of an alum 2312 arrow in diameter with a lot less weight, which means I can shoot less poundage. As with most carbon arrows though I highly recommend the use of the uni-bushing system, as it will help save your arrows if you "rear end" them. Without uni-bushings carbon arrows have a tendency to split when hit in the back by a direct hit.

Thanks for the responces guys, just curious if anyone have an opinion on the Goldtip XT series? I thought these might be good.



Edited by - mathewsarcher on 10/30/2002 08:19:00

Edited by - mathewsarcher on 10/30/2002 08:25:55

Hey Mathewsarcher try going to this site http://www.cs.unr.edu/~arnold/archer...ps/goldtip.htm this should answer your question about the Goldtip XT's/

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