Ok for those of you like Jeff too lazy to head over to the &quot;Bowhunting&quot; forum. <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>Here's my buck taken with my spankin' new Patriot. Maybe 50 arrows thru it and one of em' has blood on it already!


Don't make fun of my old deer either......The smoked sausage will taste plenty young thank you very much.<img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>

I seriously wonder what the record would be for something like this. The bow came out of the box 25.5 hours before it made sausage...

Dang cool story...<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Stringer, thanks for the reassurance that I read in your post. Seems as though every BowTech owner has had the same opinion as I have about the great quality strings and cables that your company puts out. If BowTech can top the quality of Winner's Choice strings, I'll have to see it to believe it. The average consumer IMO doesn't often put much thought into where the products come from and the people that produce them. Everything we purchase is made by someone that is trying to make a living and to provide for their family. I allways think about a company and wonder how big they are and the number of employees that work there. This string issue has a few worried and I was just thinking of a reason why there might not be WC products on every BowTech. Thanks for letting us know that when we need a quality replacement or custom product you will be there. Russ.

BowTech_Shooter, Can you give me some input on the Pro 38 or should I say 36 LOL. Just some spects on the bow and if you have any personal experience with it? I would appreciate that very much. How it shoots recoil vibration speed etc. Not too worried about the speed as I have a 32 inch draw verified by Len in MD But what is it. What has changed from last years model? Is it smoother quieter or what? thanks for anything you have.

Brian

Matt/ PA, great job! If I had a bloody arrow for every 50 I've shot there wouldn't be a deer in Nebraska<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>. Good luck with your new bow!

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Matt..I know what you mean..I sold my PAT, and dad-gummit, I MISS that thing. I've been thinking I gotta buy another one...Who knows maybe I will and maybe my box to meat turnaround will be even better <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> I sure would like to connect on the bad boy I ran into last night..<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle>

JeffB<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Ok for those of you like Jeff too lazy to head over to the &quot;Bowhunting&quot; forum.<img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>
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I must admit, I RARELY visit the Bowhunting Forum. However it's not due to laziness..

As much as I am into the tech aspects of archery itself..when it comes to hunting I like to keep it simple...like my fishing...and oftentimes many of the Bowhunting forums (at various sites) just get way too much into all the &quot;tech&quot; aspects of the actual hunting process for my tastes...BtoD ratios, crops and planting, deer management, scientific breakdowns of the rut..while allof that is interesting, I jsut don't care much to participate.

I find that when I personally start getting too &quot;tech&quot; about the actual hunting aspect, I begin to not enjoy it very much...

I don't know if that makes sense, but....

JeffB <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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BowTech_Shooter, Can you give me some input on the Pro 38 or should I say 36 LOL. Just some spects on the bow and if you have any personal experience with it? I would appreciate that very much. How it shoots recoil vibration speed etc. Not too worried about the speed as I have a 32 inch draw verified by Len in MD But what is it. What has changed from last years model? Is it smoother quieter or what? thanks for anything you have.

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Brian,

Obviously I'm not Pat (BTS) <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>, but I might be able to help you some.

As I understand it (and I believe this thread is where Pat explained it), the 2003 P-38 will have a bit more brace, and a bit more more angle to the limbs...as you mentioned this should amke it shoot a bit smoother. Also the riser will be a bit refined to make it balance a bit better, and shed a few ounces.

Now that being said, I have a 2002 P-38...well not exactly..It's actually a 2002 Generation 3.2 Model that I took the force multipler off of. With a new string and cable, VOILA! Instant P38 option two!

This is the bow I'm hunting with this year. Honestly I was expecting it to be noticeably louder and have more recoil/vibration than my Patriot did. The difference is not that great..quite small, actually. The P-38 is very quiet,and recoil/vibe is low. It's also quite accurate and forgiving. w/ 29&quot; modules at 60% letoff (29&quot; AMO) and it shoots a 370 grain arrow at 278 FPS (2 leeches, a string loop, and tru-peep on the string). This is at 61 pounds peak weight.

With the greater brace and a bit more VFT, it should shoot even more smoothly.

Hope that helps some..

EDIT: I had also listed an arrow weight of 340 grains in the above sentence but no speed...that arrow shot 288 FPS. Sorry if that was confusing.

JeffB <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>



Edited by - jeffB on 10/27/2002 05:25:47

Thank ya Jeff, I've been busy most of the day runnin my buddies shop for him...I don't think I can add anything else myself...

Pat, could you check for me and see if my new Patriot is going to ship this week? Thanks a million.

Phil.
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