Head to Head test of Hoyt, Mathews & BowTech.
01-13-2006, 11:28 AM
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RE: Head to Head test of Hoyt, Mathews & BowTech.
ORIGINAL: Pat Curtis
Anyone have any official #'s when it comes to bow sales? The local BowTech/Hoyt shop in town claims BowTech and Mathews are dead even...but that was coming from a "pro shop" that doesn't even know how to paper tune a bow...not so sure about their story. A Mathew'spro-staffer at a sports show last fall laughed when we asked him that....said both PSE and Hoyt crush BowTech...but that came from a Mathews pro-staffer.
I just want the truth on sales..but will never get it.
Anyone have any official #'s when it comes to bow sales? The local BowTech/Hoyt shop in town claims BowTech and Mathews are dead even...but that was coming from a "pro shop" that doesn't even know how to paper tune a bow...not so sure about their story. A Mathew'spro-staffer at a sports show last fall laughed when we asked him that....said both PSE and Hoyt crush BowTech...but that came from a Mathews pro-staffer.
I just want the truth on sales..but will never get it.
That is a good question. The only way I know to get sales earning or unit numbers, is if the company is traded ona stock exchange.
I would like to know how they stack up in sales?
My guess would be, Mathews #1, Hoyt #2 & BowTech #3? But that is just a guess?
01-13-2006, 11:33 AM
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RE: Head to Head test of Hoyt, Mathews & BowTech.
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Not much of a test, but to each his own.
Not much of a test, but to each his own.
I do not consider myself that much of an archer. So I guess the test is righ on the mark.I only posted what the bows felt like to me, when I shot them.
01-13-2006, 03:19 PM
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RE: Head to Head test of Hoyt, Mathews & BowTech.
I have owned bows from all three manufacturers. All 3 make great bows. IMO Mathews puts the most quality into their product. This is evident when you compare components and tunability.
Bowtech has had some problems with, what I believe to be, rushing products out to retail before working out kinks. If you don't believe me, I'll let you hold my 05 Black Knight limbs which are splintered or my 05 Allegiance (80#) which ,of all the bows I have owned in my lifetime, has been the hardest to tune. Centershot and Cam lean nightmares..... I am hoping to try an 06 allegiance to see if they resolved their issues which do exist. I like the fact that their bows are fast as hell, just let me be able to tune the damn thing without having to buy specially made equipment for their mistake of a 1 1/4" off the riser centershot. (allegiance)
Hoyts are quality bows. Xtec or Vtec are the latest ones that I have shot/tuned and they had good centershot and were very consistant at the range.
The bow I currently shoot is the Switchback XT. Love it. Tuned fast and yeah silent and smooth.
In conclusion, Bowtech for speed, but possible problems. Mathews for smoothness, silent shooting, and IMO highest quality. Hoyt for a slight combination of both. But the key is, go out and shoot em all and try to tune em all. You'll know what to get.
Bowtech has had some problems with, what I believe to be, rushing products out to retail before working out kinks. If you don't believe me, I'll let you hold my 05 Black Knight limbs which are splintered or my 05 Allegiance (80#) which ,of all the bows I have owned in my lifetime, has been the hardest to tune. Centershot and Cam lean nightmares..... I am hoping to try an 06 allegiance to see if they resolved their issues which do exist. I like the fact that their bows are fast as hell, just let me be able to tune the damn thing without having to buy specially made equipment for their mistake of a 1 1/4" off the riser centershot. (allegiance)
Hoyts are quality bows. Xtec or Vtec are the latest ones that I have shot/tuned and they had good centershot and were very consistant at the range.
The bow I currently shoot is the Switchback XT. Love it. Tuned fast and yeah silent and smooth.
In conclusion, Bowtech for speed, but possible problems. Mathews for smoothness, silent shooting, and IMO highest quality. Hoyt for a slight combination of both. But the key is, go out and shoot em all and try to tune em all. You'll know what to get.
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01-15-2006, 10:15 PM
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RE: Head to Head test of Hoyt, Mathews & BowTech.
This will be debated here and in pro shops everywhere. I own aMathews and am very happy with my purchase.
If I were to choose a Hoyt, I would have chose the V-Tec over the Trykon because I didn't like the way the bow felt when drawn. The place I bought my bow said that they never get Hoyt in for service so if I was strictly buying on manufacters issues, I would have probably bought a Hoyt. I have heard this from multiple bow shops that carry all 3 lines.
I never really felt comfortable with the Bowtech in my hand and the place I bought mine said that they have had some issues with 3 different Bowtechs strings coming off while drawing the bow back which concerned me. I understand that there are lemons out there but 3 in the same pro shop raised a flag to me.
Like everyone hear said and have probably said on multiple other posts that this is strictly a personel choice and no one should make a choice for which bow you should shoot. If you can, go to a pro shop that carries all 3 and don't be afraid to ask about performance, reliability, and customer service from the manufacturer. You can probably figure that they are making the same percentage markup on all 3 so they probably won't steer you wrong as I am sure they don't want to service problems just for the sake of it.
If I were to choose a Hoyt, I would have chose the V-Tec over the Trykon because I didn't like the way the bow felt when drawn. The place I bought my bow said that they never get Hoyt in for service so if I was strictly buying on manufacters issues, I would have probably bought a Hoyt. I have heard this from multiple bow shops that carry all 3 lines.
I never really felt comfortable with the Bowtech in my hand and the place I bought mine said that they have had some issues with 3 different Bowtechs strings coming off while drawing the bow back which concerned me. I understand that there are lemons out there but 3 in the same pro shop raised a flag to me.
Like everyone hear said and have probably said on multiple other posts that this is strictly a personel choice and no one should make a choice for which bow you should shoot. If you can, go to a pro shop that carries all 3 and don't be afraid to ask about performance, reliability, and customer service from the manufacturer. You can probably figure that they are making the same percentage markup on all 3 so they probably won't steer you wrong as I am sure they don't want to service problems just for the sake of it.
01-15-2006, 11:01 PM
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RE: Head to Head test of Hoyt, Mathews & BowTech.
I have never had a string problem with any of my mathews, but have read threads on this site about the problems. I will definitely keep an eye on my string and cables, but I don't anticipate any problems. What exactly has supposedly been happening with these strings? I have the barracuda on my xt of course.
01-16-2006, 05:21 AM
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RE: Head to Head test of Hoyt, Mathews & BowTech.
Wow, like others have said, people do feel different things with the same bow. I havn't shot the SB XT or the Tribute, but I own a BowTech Allegiance and my buddy owns a Swithback. As far as handshock between these two bows they seem really close to me with a very slight advantage going to the Switchback. About the only differance I feel when shooting them is a little more vibration in the string which is very respectable considering the Swithback has the string suppresors as well as a STS system on it. The thing that really stands out to me when I shoot these two bows is the draw cycle. I have heard alot of guys talk about the smooth draw cycle on the SB but after shooting my buddies SB, I just don't see that. The bow has a really fast/sharp drop into the valley and it seems as though you are pullin much more weight. Both his SB and my Allegiance are set at 70# but after shooting my Allegiance and then going to his SB, it feels likes his bow is set at 80# or more, nowhere near comfortable enough of a draw for me to be satisfied to hunt with.
As far as quality issues, I have seen them on every bow out there. Two of my friends actually owned the Switchback and both had problems with them. Grip falling off, string getting chewed up, bent axle, bent cam, cam lean, consistant high right tear while paper tuning, and a cracked limb. One of them kept the SB and has now enjoyed the bow for nearly a year without any problems and the other bought a Hoyt TurboTec which he currently shoots (he did have a problem with a cracked limb on that bow). I have been lucky in that I have only had one problem with all of my bows and that was my 04 BowTech Liberty. I cracked a limb and we'll just say that BowTech went over and beyond what they had to to keep me as a customer.
As far as quality issues, I have seen them on every bow out there. Two of my friends actually owned the Switchback and both had problems with them. Grip falling off, string getting chewed up, bent axle, bent cam, cam lean, consistant high right tear while paper tuning, and a cracked limb. One of them kept the SB and has now enjoyed the bow for nearly a year without any problems and the other bought a Hoyt TurboTec which he currently shoots (he did have a problem with a cracked limb on that bow). I have been lucky in that I have only had one problem with all of my bows and that was my 04 BowTech Liberty. I cracked a limb and we'll just say that BowTech went over and beyond what they had to to keep me as a customer.
01-16-2006, 07:58 PM
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RE: Head to Head test of Hoyt, Mathews & BowTech.
What exactly has supposedly been happening with these strings?
01-16-2006, 08:03 PM
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RE: Head to Head test of Hoyt, Mathews & BowTech.
As an addendum to my last thought, I have just lately become more and more aware (why it took this long, I have no idea!) to some of the people who are making the utmost-highest quality after-market strings for incredibly reasonable prices.
I've heard rave reviews about our own Gibblet on here... When you need to replace those strings on that XT, I'd definitely look him up... probably offer you a far more superior string for lessmoney thanan OEM replacement, and wouldeven give you a choice of colors. Put a silver/tan combination together with that Realtree HardwoodsHD pattern, and it looks awesome!
I've heard rave reviews about our own Gibblet on here... When you need to replace those strings on that XT, I'd definitely look him up... probably offer you a far more superior string for lessmoney thanan OEM replacement, and wouldeven give you a choice of colors. Put a silver/tan combination together with that Realtree HardwoodsHD pattern, and it looks awesome!
01-16-2006, 08:13 PM
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RE: Head to Head test of Hoyt, Mathews & BowTech.
]ORIGINAL: Greg / MO
I've heard rave reviews about our own Gibblet on here... When you need to replace those strings on that XT, I'd definitely look him up... probably offer you a far more superior string for lessmoney thanan OEM replacement, and wouldeven give you a choice of colors. Put a silver/tan combination together with that Realtree HardwoodsHD pattern, and it looks awesome!
Amen! I second that!
I've heard rave reviews about our own Gibblet on here... When you need to replace those strings on that XT, I'd definitely look him up... probably offer you a far more superior string for lessmoney thanan OEM replacement, and wouldeven give you a choice of colors. Put a silver/tan combination together with that Realtree HardwoodsHD pattern, and it looks awesome!
Amen! I second that!
