I guess I'm just of a different mindset than some guys, probably most. I look at it this way. I am using a Fletcher Hunter Mag (1/4"). It's black, but I never have trouble seeing it because I don't see it. I see through it. I shoot maybe 10,000 shots a year so my form is pretty consistent. I use slightly smaller peeps on my target and 3D bows, but my anchor points are the same so it doesn't matter.

Hunting is a different thing than target shooting, but if a person shoots enough form will be the same. In this case you do not have to SEE your peep. You see through it. And for me anything that distracts my eye from my intended target is just that---a distraction.

I really don't think anyone is that concerned with seeing their peep. It's like a previous poster said-getting enough light through the peep. In low light, a deer can just disappear when you look through a small peep. That is why I ditched mine, and am using the no-peep.

I just ordered the 2006 Speciality Archery Hooded Super Ball Peep. PN# 749-42-LH. It is now offered in a max diameter peep size of 1/4 inch for low light hunting. HAHA!Then you install a 3/16 reducer that comes with the kit that will accept any size smaller apertures. This peep allows you to use it for hunting in low light days, then change out the core piece to a smaller diameter when desired on a sunny day or a day at the range in practice. No need to keep replacing your current peep or wishing you had more options than just the 1 size. Just takes a few seconds to change out the hole sizes.

MilDot.....just make sure you get that thing tied in super tight. My buddy has one, and between the weight of the housing and the aligner constantly pulling up we had to literally serve one entire side of the string, above the peep, to keep it from moving.

BFisher.....with respect to the larger peep, I agree that a consistent anchor point can alleviate the effects of a larger diameter peep, however it's what happens when you are not standing on flat ground, or are twisting around to shoot behind the tree your stand is strapped to when that can go out the window. I am not saying you are wrong, however before putting on a large diameter peep, you need to be 100% certain that your anchor is consistent.

I shoot a fletcher tru peep (super hunter) drilled out to 1/4". When I cant see my intended target through my peep , it's time to leave because it's past legal shooting hours.

98Redline, I get what you're saying. I agree that most people need a peep, or at least rely on one. Me too. Although I described having consistent form I still use a peep. You mentioned about shooting on the gound at a range and all that good stuff, and this is what most do. But what I'm saying is that it can be done from a platform, twisting around to the sides and such, too. It's mostly a matter of maintaining consistent form. That pretty much means keeping the upper portion of the body, shoulders and arms in line. This can be done with lots of practice and bending at the waist for those "down" shots and twisting at the waist and kness for those side shots. Yeh I know, hunting isn't a perfect world and things can get screwy. Believe my I know, and totally agree. But then we as sportsmen should know when not to take something less than a good shot.

Just like the practice sessions it all boils down to self discipline and dedication.

And as much as I have tried without it, I still hunt with a peep, one with a big hole. And I also subscribe to what BOWFANATIC just said. When I can't see the animal on the other side of the pin it's long after shooting hours. But guess what. I can still see through my peep and see my pins.

No peep is the only way to go. I ditched mine last year and don't plan on ever going back.

Dont use a peep at all... I use a kisser button w/ no peep and it works great

Hey Trapper, you mean just remove the peep, anchor with your kisser and aim with the pin? And you'll get the same shot as if you looked through peep at the pin?

The Timberline NO-PEEP will show you any hand torque you are inducing and will absolutely let you shoot longer in low light conditions--i have drawn back and checked the no-peep(which showed me that i wasn't gripping properly)adjusted my bow hand and made a killing shot.That deer would have been missed or worse yet,bad shot placement without the no-peep.It forces you to shoot the same every time!