English Setter or German Shorthair?
09-18-2006, 09:03 AM
#11
Typical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Parker, Co
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RE: English Setter or German Shorthair?
I am going to throw a cruve in here. Have you thought about a pointing lab? You get nice stylish points, retreiving, and good hair length. It's the best of both worlds. I will say that this could be sided on my part. I just got my pup about a week ago.
09-18-2006, 02:08 PM
#12
Join Date: Feb 2006
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RE: English Setter or German Shorthair?
I am going to throw a cruve in here. Have you thought about a pointing lab? You get nice stylish points,
It all depends onyou want, most folks do not know what it is they truely want untill they see alot of dogs.
09-19-2006, 11:12 PM
#13
Join Date: May 2004
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RE: English Setter or German Shorthair?
Out where you are, some of the very best breeders of NAVDHA or more traditional type GSPs are located. Indiana and the rest of the midwest is full of great GSPS and NAVDHA is big out that way.Go see the parents work, attend a few events, and then get a GSP from proven NAVHDA lines and you will be a very happy guy.
09-20-2006, 04:26 AM
#14
Typical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Parker, Co
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RE: English Setter or German Shorthair?
daleh
You sound upset, go ahead a check out Shadow Mountain Labs. They have a lot of good hunting pictures on their site. I would put some up but don't know how. LOL! If you don't think foot up and tail locked is stylish. That's your opinion. I'm not talking about a normal lab. These are bread with the pointing trait. You may never have seen one but check it out.
You sound upset, go ahead a check out Shadow Mountain Labs. They have a lot of good hunting pictures on their site. I would put some up but don't know how. LOL! If you don't think foot up and tail locked is stylish. That's your opinion. I'm not talking about a normal lab. These are bread with the pointing trait. You may never have seen one but check it out.
09-20-2006, 08:19 AM
#15
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Colville WA USA
Posts: 1,974
RE: English Setter or German Shorthair?
I own a Pointing Lab, BUT
If I was only going to hunt Upland, I'd go with a traditional Pointing Breed that is known to be a "natural retriever".
However if I was going to hunt both Upland and Waterfowl like I do(especially in cold water) --and you want a dog that pointsand retrieves well on both landand water (especially big or cold water), you have 2 choices.
Either a GWP or a PL.
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If I was only going to hunt Upland, I'd go with a traditional Pointing Breed that is known to be a "natural retriever".
However if I was going to hunt both Upland and Waterfowl like I do(especially in cold water) --and you want a dog that pointsand retrieves well on both landand water (especially big or cold water), you have 2 choices.
Either a GWP or a PL.
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09-20-2006, 09:13 AM
#16
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Maine
Posts: 12,564
RE: English Setter or German Shorthair?
I think the Irish can do both, I do not duck hunt but do bird hunt.
My Irish has a stylish point and loves retrieving as well. And water
is not a problem for him. Where they came from they hunt birds and
ducks with them as well as sled dog racing. Cold water is not any
kind of problem for them either. As on more than one occasion they
have to be pulled out of the water in the dead of winter. And mine
is no exception to this, after pulling him out onto the ice in temps
running 10 degrees out. Even grouse hunting he loves to jump into
a brook or pond that we may come across. I have little doubt that he
would retrieve a duck if shot. The history of the Irish says they have
been known to do both. The only sad part is they are so hard to find.
My Irish has a stylish point and loves retrieving as well. And water
is not a problem for him. Where they came from they hunt birds and
ducks with them as well as sled dog racing. Cold water is not any
kind of problem for them either. As on more than one occasion they
have to be pulled out of the water in the dead of winter. And mine
is no exception to this, after pulling him out onto the ice in temps
running 10 degrees out. Even grouse hunting he loves to jump into
a brook or pond that we may come across. I have little doubt that he
would retrieve a duck if shot. The history of the Irish says they have
been known to do both. The only sad part is they are so hard to find.
09-22-2006, 05:17 AM
#18
Typical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2004
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RE: English Setter or German Shorthair?
When they traditionally talk about stylish points, you have to imagine a dog running full speed then hitting a scent then slamming on point, straight tail at 11 or 12 o'clock, head straight. Or catching scent, the dog goes absolutely crazy, nose on the ground, tail going a 100 mph, criss-crossing ground then slamming on point; tail straight up with head slightly bent. These are stylish points which judges in field trials look for.
