Sunday huntung in Va
#41
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 9,227
Not everyone will. Don't forget this only applies to private land. The folks that don't have access to private land and hunt public land, Federal land, Military Bases, WMAs etc... will be left out.
Right now this is only half a victory and in the eyes of this old military man, a half a victory is just another word for a defeat. This needs to be applied to the entire state!
Right now this is only half a victory and in the eyes of this old military man, a half a victory is just another word for a defeat. This needs to be applied to the entire state!
#42
Fork Horn
Join Date: Oct 2005
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Posts: 255
Not everyone will. Don't forget this only applies to private land. The folks that don't have access to private land and hunt public land, Federal land, Military Bases, WMAs etc... will be left out.
Right now this is only half a victory and in the eyes of this old military man, a half a victory is just another word for a defeat. This needs to be applied to the entire state!
Right now this is only half a victory and in the eyes of this old military man, a half a victory is just another word for a defeat. This needs to be applied to the entire state!
#43
Spike
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 97
I have heard from 2 different sources that if it gets to the Governor's desk, he will in fact sign the bill into law.
#44
Spike
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 97
Not everyone will. Don't forget this only applies to private land. The folks that don't have access to private land and hunt public land, Federal land, Military Bases, WMAs etc... will be left out.
Right now this is only half a victory and in the eyes of this old military man, a half a victory is just another word for a defeat. This needs to be applied to the entire state!
Right now this is only half a victory and in the eyes of this old military man, a half a victory is just another word for a defeat. This needs to be applied to the entire state!
Need to keep up with this momentum.
#45
Some can look at it as a defeat while many others will look at it as a small victory in a larger war. In this old military man's mind if you do not win the small battles you can not win the war. Sorry but knowing the effort that many have put in over the years this is a big win. To say it is a defeat is to not fully know the history and is attempting to get those who got this done to think they failed. Far from it.
So should hunters stop now that you think this is a defeat. Or would you mind if the same group of warriors ignored you and worked to expand it further? Your choice. And while you be hunting on Sunday if private land becomes available in the mean time?
So should hunters stop now that you think this is a defeat. Or would you mind if the same group of warriors ignored you and worked to expand it further? Your choice. And while you be hunting on Sunday if private land becomes available in the mean time?
Last edited by vapahunter; 02-08-2014 at 10:28 AM.
#46
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 9,227
As I have stated here, this is a good start but it doesn't go far enough. I'm curious why the bill was written just for private property instead of the entire state in the first place. It makes more sense to write the bill to be fully inclusive rather that having to fight the same battle over and over and over.
Last edited by flags; 02-09-2014 at 12:17 PM.
#47
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,662
As I have stated here, this is a good start but it doesn't go far enough. I'm curious why the bill was written just for private property instead of the entire state in the first place. It makes more sense to write the bill to be fully inclusive rather that having to fight the same battle over and over and over.
And it failed every year.....
Now the way the bill is written the public can't complain about not being able to use public land on Sundays...
And that's why it WILL pass.....
And Sunday Hunting on private property is a start......
And a DAMN GOOD ONE......
#48
I like the way a person can comment with no idea of the history of the issue. It is like a person going into battle with the wrong ammo and thinking he has even a chance of winning.
The campaign to remove the ban on Sunday hunting has been going on for years here in Va. Many bills have been submitted and died on a sub committee of the House. This is the first bill that has generated the support of a large group and has bypassed the House kill committee. It is a compromise all can live with and has the best chance of passing both chambers and being signed by the Governor.
Will this be the end of the push? NO. Will it take dedicated people to go further? YES. Will denigrating what has been done so far help? NO. So that is why as a retired Navy Chief I say have a good retirement and have fun in Alabama. I hope things are more to your liking there. I will stay here and continue to fight and win the small battles until the war is won.
The campaign to remove the ban on Sunday hunting has been going on for years here in Va. Many bills have been submitted and died on a sub committee of the House. This is the first bill that has generated the support of a large group and has bypassed the House kill committee. It is a compromise all can live with and has the best chance of passing both chambers and being signed by the Governor.
Will this be the end of the push? NO. Will it take dedicated people to go further? YES. Will denigrating what has been done so far help? NO. So that is why as a retired Navy Chief I say have a good retirement and have fun in Alabama. I hope things are more to your liking there. I will stay here and continue to fight and win the small battles until the war is won.
Last edited by vapahunter; 02-09-2014 at 01:38 PM.
#49
IMO, this will be a major battle win if the Governor signs it. Not perfect but a very good start.
Now, I do have a question if the bill passes. The way I read it, as long as you have permission to hunt a particular piece of private land, you can hunt it on Sunday....assuming the landowner specifies different. A good friend believes if you don't own the land, you will need written permission to hunt the land on Sunday. How does everyone else interpret this?
Now, I do have a question if the bill passes. The way I read it, as long as you have permission to hunt a particular piece of private land, you can hunt it on Sunday....assuming the landowner specifies different. A good friend believes if you don't own the land, you will need written permission to hunt the land on Sunday. How does everyone else interpret this?
#50
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 9,227
I like the way a person can comment with no idea of the history of the issue. It is like a person going into battle with the wrong ammo and thinking he has even a chance of winning.
The campaign to remove the ban on Sunday hunting has been going on for years here in Va. Many bills have been submitted and died on a sub committee of the House. This is the first bill that has generated the support of a large group and has bypassed the House kill committee. It is a compromise all can live with and has the best chance of passing both chambers and being signed by the Governor.
Will this be the end of the push? NO. Will it take dedicated people to go further? YES. Will denigrating what has been done so far help? NO. So that is why as a retired Navy Chief I say have a good retirement and have fun in Alabama. I hope things are more to your liking there. I will stay here and continue to fight and win the small battles until the war is won.
The campaign to remove the ban on Sunday hunting has been going on for years here in Va. Many bills have been submitted and died on a sub committee of the House. This is the first bill that has generated the support of a large group and has bypassed the House kill committee. It is a compromise all can live with and has the best chance of passing both chambers and being signed by the Governor.
Will this be the end of the push? NO. Will it take dedicated people to go further? YES. Will denigrating what has been done so far help? NO. So that is why as a retired Navy Chief I say have a good retirement and have fun in Alabama. I hope things are more to your liking there. I will stay here and continue to fight and win the small battles until the war is won.
For what it is worth, I've been stationed in VA pretty much continually since 1988 when I came here to pre-comm the USS Abraham Lincoln CVN-72. It isn't like I just got here. So I've got a pretty good background on the history of this topic. I'm aware how many times it has been brought up and I know how hard the battle has been. But that does not discount the fact that there are many people that still will not be allowed to hunt on Sunday and it is for those people I point out the unfairness. You may not care about them, but I do. Especially since so many enlisted personnel are stationed here and most won't have access to public land and have to hunt public land.
This active duty (for now anyway) Navy Chief never had any intention on remaining in VA after retirement. That was never in my plans. To those that are willing to fight this battle again and again and again, year after year, I wish you success. But I'll be hunting every Sunday this fall in one of several states. Life is short and you can never make up a day of hunting lost and right now VA wants to deprive me of 1 out of every 7 days since the areas I hunt are excluded from this law.
As far as "denigrating", I've stated it is a good start but it doesn't go far enough. Pointing out a fact is hardly "denigrating". But, and this is a big but, those of you that hunt private land exclusively and will now be able to hunt Sundays will not be as concerned about getting it passed on public land in the future because you will already have the benefit and few will fight hard for a benefit to others that doesn't pertain to themselves. That's human nature pure and simple.
Last edited by flags; 02-09-2014 at 02:58 PM.