BB I must not have seen the original post, what was edited? If it was something about trapping dogs or anything even close to it, I don't blame Cliff for getting rid of it. Do you have anything to add to the forum other than complaining about hunters using hounds to deer hunt? I would be as happy as anyone to see the VHDA go away because of their opposition to SH, but I'm not opposed to anyone hunting with houndsif theycan do it with respectto other hunters and landowners.

Start your own forum, you and hokie can argue with no interruptions.

Why would he complain to the landowner? If the dogs were being turned out to run across the land he leased, hehad a legitimate complaint, but it should have been directed to the local CO. There is a reason for the hound study, the hunters abusing the RTR law are going to make life difficult for the other hunters using hounds. That small % trying to have it their way or no way, is on both sides of the fence.

The reason he complained to the landowner is because most of the land around him is rented by the same farmer. He actually did call the gw out 2 times but he knew he was full of crap like most of them. Im not saying that SOME hunters abuse the rights and laws but the way some of these guys talk its an everyday thing when its not. People (not just hunters but landowners) are getting tired of "I heard a dog a mile away... that guy must have turned out on me" sick and tired of it. I know it happens and its wrong but its not nowhere near as bad as some of these fools make it seem. They want to be able to go into the woods and not hear a dog anywhere, and if they do its automatic...... that dog must have been turned out with bad intentions. Believe it or not it is a small % of people who feel like some of these guys about hound hunting. The vdigf has to look into it. But if anyone thinks dog huntings days are numbered they are big time dreamers its laughable. The ones who do abuse the laws should not be aloud to hunt but neither should some of these antis making complete asses of themselves either! lol

I'll agree with you that hunting with hounds isn't going away and I don't think it should, but there's states that allow hunting with hound and they don't have a RTR law.

I agree, Most people if you just ask will let you, If not than wait till they come out.

Kettle.......kettle, this is pot. I call black. Say again, I call black.

The numbers are not that small who oppose the way dogs are currently run. Tell me if my interpretation of your train of thought is correct or not; "because it's only a few bad hound hunters, the laws should not change because that would affect too many good hound hunters"? is that pretty close?

Don't you guys ever get tired of arguing over dog hunting? Old habits die hard i guess

I guess some will just never get it. Bryant you are right I keep on arguing back but like a few have pm me and said, I am waisting my time trying to talk to some of these guys.... Im finally starting to see what they are talking about now lol.[:'(]



By the way zakery if you would take the time to read AND understand other post on this thread (right above us) you could have saved some typing time....the answer to your question is right there

I quit arguing with them (my fingers were tired of typing) awhile ago.


The one problem i have with a couple of them is talking about hurting the dogs. It's not their fault.All these little guys want to do is to appease their owners and run deer..

I think thats most peoples problem with them are. I can say that SOME of them have real complaints and are right if doggers are breaking or abusing the rtr law, but killing or hurting somones dog is a lose lose situation. Someone looses a dog and someonw loses a tooth


Cute pups u got there. just had 2 liters of 7 each last month. The future is looking bright[8D]