You are sadly mistaken as well, I hunt private land owned by paper companies. There is enough land here for all to hunt on and hardly meet each other except when traveling on the dirt roads going in or out. However if the dogs are chasing coyotes they are doing what they are trained to do. They have not been trained to read so, shoot the dog? Heck no, you have to deal with the handlers of the dogs. That is what I am saying and besides my dogs are under my control as they hunt birds. That is also a nice set of pics. I hunt the Irish Setters and I am not against anyone else that hunt coyotes, coons, bobcats, rabbits or anything else they choose to hunt with their dogs.

Cascade,

If you hunt with dogs, you will have one hell of a time convincing me that they have never "tresspassed" by crossing a fenceline or going on the wrong side of the road onto ground where you don't have permission to be.
Under those circumstances, would it be acceptable for a trigger happy landowner to give your dog a case of lead poisoning?

As for shooting dogs, if you honestly think that they are endangering game, livestock, etc., then yes I think that you have the right to shoot them. But, there are simply too many jerks out there who are willing to shoot any dog that comes anywhere near their deer stand whether they are on their own land or not. Those of you who think otherwise might find more sympathetic ears in the deer hunting section[:'(]

How does "not always coyote hunting for the sheer sport of it" translate into "doing it for a job"?????? Hmmm, now I'm confused too.

People get their toes stepped on all the time when hunting. Dogs come running through, someone sets up a decoy spread close to yours, treestand right on the fence, deer drives on the neighboring property, skybusting waterfowl, chasing turkeys where you shouldn't,..list could go on forever.Most hunters by nature will scratch, claw, and spendfor any advantage they canget. It'll never happen that all hunters are at peace with all other hunters. This time I'm just on one side of the issue.

Leave it to the guy with a right-side beard to bring this back down to earth.

Good point. If you're just looking for a reason to get pissed-off, then you can always find lot's of opportunities to do so in the hunting world. The problem is that everyone, perhaps without even knowing it, have done things that others could use as an excuse to get pissed off. That's why I always try to play nice in the woods.

I just don't understand your logic. The things il coyote mentioned are things hunters SHOULD NOT DO. In your mind, if someone gets upset about it, they are the one with the problem. WRONG![:@]

Fine, when you are running your dogs, they don't cause any problems and you fully respect the landowner, etc., etc. But, what you don't know, is that the week before, some derelict coyote hunters came through the same area and cut the farmer's fence so they could drive their 4-wheelers through. The farmer is upset, do you blame him? You keep assuming that everyone is just looking for a reason to be upset. Have you ever thought that some may ACTUALLY have a reason???

Guys, face it. Hunters and fishermen are a cross section of society. There are good and bad. The bad ruin it for a lot of the good people.

Just an FYI. I personally would not shoot the dogs unless of course they were doing some damage to something.

Its already been acknowledged that there are some bad apples in ALL types of hunting. I'm just not gonna get all fired up over onebad appleand get ticked off at the world.For example, I'm not gonna fly off the handle at deer huntersin general because ofspike nails driven into hickory and oak trees on my property by onedumbass deer hunter.

I read some of member views on coyote hunters with hounds. First ,if you havent done it dont knock it. Another thing is as sportsmen we should all stick together or the wrong people will pick all hunting apart, starting with the guns. Coyote kill 17 per cent of new born fawns. With out the hunter (hound hunters kill the most) fox and coyotes would get out of hand, like they are in southern S. Dak.. Talk to people down there and they will tell you they have no deer or pheasants left there because of coyotes. If you have never hunted hounds ,try it I'll bet you'll like it. Most people have hunted birds with a dog. Hunting coyote with a hound is no different. and then there isthe guy that said all the coyote hound is doing is chasing deer, thats B.S.. That's what he thinks their doing. Some groups of hound hunters kill well over a 100 coyotes a year,do you think you can do that calling them,NO... In Minn. we have a dog shooting fund to take the shooter to court to see that they pays the 1000 dollars for the houndhe shot and the bad name they get for doing so. We spend alot of money on this sport day after day, way more then and other huntingwe do, deer ,birds ,ect.

In Iowa, and in probably other states, if your dog goes on someone elses property you can retrieve it, but you cannot carry a gun and/or cannot kill the animals it is perusing.