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Forum: Northeast
12-29-2009, 02:59 PM
Replies: 198
Views: 9,564
Posted By bluebird2

That is a reasonable solution, but how are you...

That is a reasonable solution, but how are you going to get the PGC to agree?
Forum: Northeast
12-29-2009, 02:13 PM
Replies: 198
Views: 9,564
Posted By bluebird2

So the solution to undue stress on our buck is...

So the solution to undue stress on our buck is obviously to shoot them before they die of natural causes. I guess that means the PGC should repeal ARs.:)
Forum: Northeast
12-29-2009, 01:57 PM
Replies: 198
Views: 9,564
Posted By bluebird2

I believe everyone supports the development of...

I believe everyone supports the development of food plots where needed but only 3 WMUs have less than 10% farmland and only 2 WMUs are at least 90% forested and those 2 WMUs were assigned the...
Forum: Northeast
12-29-2009, 07:06 AM
Replies: 198
Views: 9,564
Posted By bluebird2

[QUOTE]I agree, I never once suggested it should...

[QUOTE]I agree, I never once suggested it should be the basis for statewide deer management.[QUOTE]


Then I guess we agree that it is a not an issue for the majority of the state and is only a...
Forum: Northeast
12-29-2009, 06:20 AM
Replies: 198
Views: 9,564
Posted By bluebird2

Based on your answers , it appears there are too...

Based on your answers , it appears there are too many variables, with no established criteria , that would require excessive manpower to collect data, that it makes using the effects of stress an...
Forum: Northeast
12-29-2009, 04:12 AM
Replies: 198
Views: 9,564
Posted By bluebird2

How is the age of a deer and indicator of stress?...

How is the age of a deer and indicator of stress? What age would be an indicator of stress?

How would the PGC collect enough data on antler casting to use it as an indicator of stress? When does...
Forum: Northeast
12-28-2009, 05:03 PM
Replies: 198
Views: 9,564
Posted By bluebird2

I find it hard to believe you have no idea what...

I find it hard to believe you have no idea what I was referring to, since you are the one that tried to claim the stress of breeding was a problem that we need to address. The amount of fat on bucks...
Forum: Northeast
12-28-2009, 02:44 PM
Replies: 198
Views: 9,564
Posted By bluebird2

I agree , but Glew 22 thinks it is a problem that...

I agree , but Glew 22 thinks it is a problem that needs to be addressed.
Forum: Northeast
12-28-2009, 01:45 PM
Replies: 198
Views: 9,564
Posted By bluebird2

I agree. The funny thing is ,even the buck I got...

I agree. The funny thing is ,even the buck I got in 5C where there is an unlimited food supply had little if any fat. On the other hand , the doe we butchered last year had gobs of fat and looked...
Forum: Northeast
12-28-2009, 12:47 PM
Replies: 198
Views: 9,564
Posted By bluebird2

how can that be? The deer in 2G should have more...

how can that be? The deer in 2G should have more than twice as much food as they did 10 years ago and should be fat as pigs.
Forum: Northeast
12-27-2009, 05:42 PM
Replies: 198
Views: 9,564
Posted By bluebird2

The PGC is right when the PGC data supports the...

The PGC is right when the PGC data supports the PGC position. but , the PGC data does not support their claims regarding breeding rates and productivity. but, you are smart enough access that data...
Forum: Northeast
12-27-2009, 04:42 PM
Replies: 198
Views: 9,564
Posted By bluebird2

Your post is little more than gibberish that...

Your post is little more than gibberish that makes no sense. there is nothing in any of the PGC reports or studies that point to the fact that our bucks are unhealthy or stressed by the stress of...
Forum: Northeast
12-27-2009, 04:27 PM
Replies: 198
Views: 9,564
Posted By bluebird2

How far do you think a buck can run in an hour...

How far do you think a buck can run in an hour without breaking a sweat? How far would you run for a sweet young honey in an hour if you thought you had a chance of scoring a hit? Would you...
Forum: Northeast
12-26-2009, 03:44 PM
Replies: 198
Views: 9,564
Posted By bluebird2

The one thing that drives me crazy is the PGC...

The one thing that drives me crazy is the PGC denying that they know how many deer we have. They admit they are using the SAK model to estimate the OWDD in each WMU just as they did in the past....
Forum: Northeast
12-24-2009, 11:20 AM
Replies: 198
Views: 9,564
Posted By bluebird2

If those oak saplings were 3'-5' high they were...

If those oak saplings were 3'-5' high they were a lot older that 5-7 years, which means they got their start before the area was fenced. The rate of growth under a closed canopy that even with very...
Forum: Northeast
12-24-2009, 11:15 AM
Replies: 198
Views: 9,564
Posted By bluebird2

I see you insist on digging the hole even deeper...

I see you insist on digging the hole even deeper by repeating PGC talking points. But the facts show that every year from 1987 to 1998 we harvested more antlerless than antlered deer. Furthermore,...
Forum: Northeast
12-24-2009, 08:45 AM
Replies: 198
Views: 9,564
Posted By bluebird2

[QUOTE]Both the PGC and DCNR know exactly what...

[QUOTE]Both the PGC and DCNR know exactly what they're doing when it comes to sustainable foresty practices.While some private timber companies do a good job,most of what I see being cut on private...
Forum: Northeast
12-24-2009, 06:37 AM
Replies: 198
Views: 9,564
Posted By bluebird2

I said the habitat in 5C and 5B could support 100...

I said the habitat in 5C and 5B could support 100 DPSM, I didn't say or imply those units should be managed at 100 DPSM.


I am basing my position on the history of our herd and it is a proven...
Forum: Northeast
12-24-2009, 04:09 AM
Replies: 198
Views: 9,564
Posted By bluebird2

The PGC claims they are no longer managing the...

The PGC claims they are no longer managing the herd based on deer density, so the average number of DPSM is not the issue. Even at the township level conditions can vary significantly in a relative...
Forum: Northeast
12-23-2009, 05:33 PM
Replies: 198
Views: 9,564
Posted By bluebird2

Anyone that admits he is not familiar with the...

Anyone that admits he is not familiar with the various stages of forest development doesn't know enough to comment on any of the various effects of the current DMP.
However, if he is open minded...
Forum: Northeast
12-23-2009, 04:36 PM
Replies: 198
Views: 9,564
Posted By bluebird2

It has nothing to do with managing the herd on a...

It has nothing to do with managing the herd on a smaller scale. The habitat in all of 5C and 5B can support over 100 DPSM. WMU 2g can support more than 30 DPSM yet it is being managed at 8 or 9 DPSM...
Forum: Northeast
12-23-2009, 04:04 PM
Replies: 198
Views: 9,564
Posted By bluebird2

The QDMA of PA named Alt the deer manager of the...

The QDMA of PA named Alt the deer manager of the year award for setting the goals of 5 DPSM for 5B and 6 DPSM for 5C. You are just lucky that the plan has failed to reduce the herd in your area or...
Forum: Northeast
12-23-2009, 07:59 AM
Replies: 198
Views: 9,564
Posted By bluebird2

I haven't told anyone how to manage their land,...

I haven't told anyone how to manage their land, including the PGC, DCNR or private land owners. I am talking about managing the deer herd rather than managing individual properties.



That is...
Forum: Northeast
12-23-2009, 06:30 AM
Replies: 198
Views: 9,564
Posted By bluebird2

I have just as much right as anyone else to...

I have just as much right as anyone else to comment on how much of PA forests should be in saw timber. It is an established fact that the extensive timbering in the past created large areas of even...
Forum: Northeast
12-23-2009, 05:30 AM
Replies: 198
Views: 9,564
Posted By bluebird2

Why didn't all the preferred species get wiped...

Why didn't all the preferred species get wiped out when we had 40 DPSM in the 1940s and and 1970s? Don't we have any stands 30-60 year old pole timber stands of oak,ash and maple? Why did over 70%...
Forum: Northeast
12-23-2009, 04:09 AM
Replies: 198
Views: 9,564
Posted By bluebird2

It is not meaningless when you realize Alt was...

It is not meaningless when you realize Alt was claiming our deer were unhealthy due to over browsing and the lack of an adequate food supply. But the fact is they was more than enough food for the...
Forum: Northeast
12-22-2009, 06:31 PM
Replies: 198
Views: 9,564
Posted By bluebird2

That simply is not true. while the PGC has...

That simply is not true. while the PGC has claimed our forests have been severely over browsed since the late 1920's, the amount of forested acreage has increased instead of decreasing. If you don't...
Forum: Northeast
12-22-2009, 04:30 PM
Replies: 198
Views: 9,564
Posted By bluebird2

That is a very common misconception of the facts....

That is a very common misconception of the facts. Maintaining low DD for 1-2 decades will not improve the carrying capacity of our forests. The fact is that with a 1% harvest rate the percentage of...
Forum: Northeast
12-21-2009, 04:39 PM
Replies: 198
Views: 9,564
Posted By bluebird2

The irrational part is it was proposed by a guy...

The irrational part is it was proposed by a guy that blindly supported the PGC plan, which implemented the concurrent seasons to offset the negative impact that bad weather can have on a 3 day...
Forum: Northeast
12-21-2009, 03:39 PM
Replies: 198
Views: 9,564
Posted By bluebird2

But the PGC has the bear harvest data the day...

But the PGC has the bear harvest data the day after bear season closes. they don't have the total antlerless harvest until the late ML season closes. furthermore , the legislature isn't about to...
Forum: Northeast
12-21-2009, 03:08 PM
Replies: 198
Views: 9,564
Posted By bluebird2

That is a totally irrational solution since it...

That is a totally irrational solution since it would take just two days of bad weather to the reduce the doe harvest to next to nothing.
Forum: Northeast
12-18-2009, 12:38 PM
Replies: 198
Views: 9,564
Posted By bluebird2

You said "no one knows" and that would include...

You said "no one knows" and that would include the PGC. you don't have to know how many deer you have to know having 20% more deer would improve hunting by around 20%.
Forum: Northeast
12-17-2009, 04:24 PM
Replies: 198
Views: 9,564
Posted By bluebird2

Your not even close, but that is about what I...

Your not even close, but that is about what I expected.
Forum: Northeast
12-17-2009, 03:55 PM
Replies: 198
Views: 9,564
Posted By bluebird2

I will be happy to as soon as you can explain how...

I will be happy to as soon as you can explain how much land is available to purchase, for each of our 926K hunters,when the total state is 45,000 SM. Now remember to subtract SGLs, SFL ,ANF all farm...
Forum: Northeast
12-17-2009, 03:08 PM
Replies: 198
Views: 9,564
Posted By bluebird2

I agree that hunters who think that the solution...

I agree that hunters who think that the solution to the problem is for hunters to buy and manage their own land are very are part of the problem rather than being part of the solution.
Forum: Northeast
12-17-2009, 02:43 PM
Replies: 198
Views: 9,564
Posted By bluebird2

That shows just how little you know and how you...

That shows just how little you know and how you accept the PGC propaganda. The fact is , every year they estimate the population the same way they have been doing for over the last 25 years. If they...
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