Reloading Questions for 300 WM
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Nontypical Buck
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Holy cow walker, we agree on something 100%. Do you think its a new start?
Holy cow walker, we agree on something 100%. Do you think its a new start?
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I can agree with O.B.L. that the world would be better off totally rid of allinfidels, it's only which one's definition of infidelwe could never come to terms on.....
I can find no reason to skimp on bullets, within usefull parameters, and tend not to short myself in that regard....bullets is cheap considering the alternative.
A ballistic tip is a good bullet for which it was designed and can't think big game was at the top of the drawing board during inception, tho' I've heard the 30's and up are beingmade a tadtougher. There's a contingent who praise them for whackin' elk and such things but I'm not one of 'em. I do like tobust woofs in thehips withBT's and Vmax's as the show is quite spectacular.....
Never could figure out the need for a 180 30 cal anythingfor deer or blackbear, especially out of a belted case. Though I've been guilty of the same, as a matter ofno other choice once or twice, it don't take long to realizedeer and black bearjust ain't that much bullet proof.......
The 165/168 TSX will likely stabalize well in his win mag, slam dunk stuff pronto, and shoot pretty much point and click regarding relative tragectory.....
X's simply kill like no other, and therein do shine................
I can find no reason to skimp on bullets, within usefull parameters, and tend not to short myself in that regard....bullets is cheap considering the alternative.
A ballistic tip is a good bullet for which it was designed and can't think big game was at the top of the drawing board during inception, tho' I've heard the 30's and up are beingmade a tadtougher. There's a contingent who praise them for whackin' elk and such things but I'm not one of 'em. I do like tobust woofs in thehips withBT's and Vmax's as the show is quite spectacular.....
Never could figure out the need for a 180 30 cal anythingfor deer or blackbear, especially out of a belted case. Though I've been guilty of the same, as a matter ofno other choice once or twice, it don't take long to realizedeer and black bearjust ain't that much bullet proof.......
The 165/168 TSX will likely stabalize well in his win mag, slam dunk stuff pronto, and shoot pretty much point and click regarding relative tragectory.....
X's simply kill like no other, and therein do shine................
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I never shot the original X for the reasons you say, a lotta folks said they couldn't get them to shoot well. From what I understand it was either they did pretty well for some or they did rotten for others...not muchmiddle ground. The one thing that was consistantly saidabout the original X though,is that they were a hammer when did they did shoot well.
Since the original X is pretty muchout of the equation now, the TSX addresses the problems many experienced with the originals. They actually operate at a lower pressure than most jacketed bullets and thus can be driven a tad faster with slightly elevated charges. Less bearing surface due to the grooves facilitates a more consistant opperating pressure than the original, as well as reduced fouling which were the twomain problemswith the original.
The design of the TSX is a near total weight retention anda near totally predictable expansion with the four petals opening as they do. This can allow a lighter bullet weight, driven at a higher speed, doing the same job better than a heavier jacketed bulletwhich isprone to lost mass, and expansion which is at the mercy of what it hits.
IOW, you can crunch a lotta bone and still get through vitals with a lighter, flatter shooting bullet that retains it's weight. Personally I experience quicker kills and a lot less ruined meat with the TSX than I ever did with Partitions, and I can always like flatter trajectories.
I've used them in five different rifles so far andhave never not liked how they shoot. Two 6mm bores, a 25-06, a 30-06, and a 300 RUM. All five shot sub MOA with a little load tinkering. I can like TSX's above the rest.....
Since the original X is pretty muchout of the equation now, the TSX addresses the problems many experienced with the originals. They actually operate at a lower pressure than most jacketed bullets and thus can be driven a tad faster with slightly elevated charges. Less bearing surface due to the grooves facilitates a more consistant opperating pressure than the original, as well as reduced fouling which were the twomain problemswith the original.
The design of the TSX is a near total weight retention anda near totally predictable expansion with the four petals opening as they do. This can allow a lighter bullet weight, driven at a higher speed, doing the same job better than a heavier jacketed bulletwhich isprone to lost mass, and expansion which is at the mercy of what it hits.
IOW, you can crunch a lotta bone and still get through vitals with a lighter, flatter shooting bullet that retains it's weight. Personally I experience quicker kills and a lot less ruined meat with the TSX than I ever did with Partitions, and I can always like flatter trajectories.
I've used them in five different rifles so far andhave never not liked how they shoot. Two 6mm bores, a 25-06, a 30-06, and a 300 RUM. All five shot sub MOA with a little load tinkering. I can like TSX's above the rest.....
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The ruger is bedded and floated. I floated it and I paid a smith to bed it for me. The gun can shoot because it shot the lights out with the Speer Spitzer Boattail.
I ordered up all the bullets yesterday except the interbonds. They were out of stock and they said they would not be in stock for 30 days. I'm going to check another site today for those.
Tom
I ordered up all the bullets yesterday except the interbonds. They were out of stock and they said they would not be in stock for 30 days. I'm going to check another site today for those.
Tom
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Check out this post. This is from one of our PH in Tanzania and it is his personal experiance with the Barnes Triple Shock Bullets in Africa. http://www.lonestaroutdoorsman.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3146
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A 7 mag 160 is a lotta bang for Barnes money, lottsa folks out there can't grasp the light for caliber aspect offered by the design.....
Did the guy really think it wouldn't near cut his Dik Dik in half at 50 yards?
People amaze me..........
Did the guy really think it wouldn't near cut his Dik Dik in half at 50 yards?
People amaze me..........
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Check out this post. This is from one of our PH in Tanzania and it is his personal experiance with the Barnes Triple Shock Bullets in Africa. http://www.lonestaroutdoorsman.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3146
Check out this post. This is from one of our PH in Tanzania and it is his personal experiance with the Barnes Triple Shock Bullets in Africa. http://www.lonestaroutdoorsman.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3146
Tom
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There is no way a bullet did that kind of damage to that animal. I'm call'n bs.
Tom
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Check out this post. This is from one of our PH in Tanzania and it is his personal experiance with the Barnes Triple Shock Bullets in Africa. http://www.lonestaroutdoorsman.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3146
Check out this post. This is from one of our PH in Tanzania and it is his personal experiance with the Barnes Triple Shock Bullets in Africa. http://www.lonestaroutdoorsman.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3146
Tom
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Why would an Africa PH who could give a crapone way or the otherBS aboutone particular bullet? He is just stating he isn't a fna of the Barnes triple shock because of the reason he gives and shows. I guarantee you the pictures are true whether y'all want to believe it or not. I could care less myself just posting information on a subject.


