rock chucker sepreme
07-27-2006 | 08:47 AM
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RE: rock chucker sepreme
ORIGINAL: HighDesertWolf
perhaps rigid wasnt the best choice of words or maybe you misunderstood what I meant, but being hollow the ram is stiffer though it may not matter on a reloading press. if you have ever had the opportunity to test the integrity of steel or taken any machining courses and learned about metal integrity and engineering techniques. a solid piece of bar stock is more flexible under pressure then if you were to take that same piece of bar stock and bore it out this makes the steel less flexible under pressure. though it doesnt make it stronger like some would think it does however make the steel more rigid.
ORIGINAL: bigcountry
I wouldn't mind the lee if it was one piece cast. I had lees before like that that would work itself loose. Maybe a minor inconvience to some, but to me, I just can't deal with it. Actually I don't believe hollow means more rigid. But thats an opinion. Thanks for the post. Just not for me. I may just have a bad taste in my mouth from the Lee 1000 and others. Now after having solid cast its hard to go back to screws and all. Also the last thing I didn't like about the classic press is inconsistent bullet depth. I think it has to do with the plate design. Maybe operator error and closed mind sealed the deal. Glad you like it.
I wouldn't mind the lee if it was one piece cast. I had lees before like that that would work itself loose. Maybe a minor inconvience to some, but to me, I just can't deal with it. Actually I don't believe hollow means more rigid. But thats an opinion. Thanks for the post. Just not for me. I may just have a bad taste in my mouth from the Lee 1000 and others. Now after having solid cast its hard to go back to screws and all. Also the last thing I didn't like about the classic press is inconsistent bullet depth. I think it has to do with the plate design. Maybe operator error and closed mind sealed the deal. Glad you like it.
07-28-2006 | 02:40 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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From: A flat lander lost in the mountains of Northern,AZ
RE: rock chucker sepreme
ORIGINAL: bigcountry
Yea, I know a little about this, and respectfully disagree. I think its if you have two materials of same mass, but make one hollow, its more rigid. My machinist (of 40 years) here at work never heard your theory either. In other words, a 2lb gun barrel with no fluting is not as stiff as a 2lb gun barrel fluted properly. But if you took a 2lb gun barrel and fluted it (took say .5lb off) and made it 1.5lbs, itmight be less rigid than the original 2lb gun barrel but not by much to get the benfit of a lighter barrel.
ORIGINAL: HighDesertWolf
perhaps rigid wasnt the best choice of words or maybe you misunderstood what I meant, but being hollow the ram is stiffer though it may not matter on a reloading press. if you have ever had the opportunity to test the integrity of steel or taken any machining courses and learned about metal integrity and engineering techniques. a solid piece of bar stock is more flexible under pressure then if you were to take that same piece of bar stock and bore it out this makes the steel less flexible under pressure. though it doesnt make it stronger like some would think it does however make the steel more rigid.
ORIGINAL: bigcountry
I wouldn't mind the lee if it was one piece cast. I had lees before like that that would work itself loose. Maybe a minor inconvience to some, but to me, I just can't deal with it. Actually I don't believe hollow means more rigid. But thats an opinion. Thanks for the post. Just not for me. I may just have a bad taste in my mouth from the Lee 1000 and others. Now after having solid cast its hard to go back to screws and all. Also the last thing I didn't like about the classic press is inconsistent bullet depth. I think it has to do with the plate design. Maybe operator error and closed mind sealed the deal. Glad you like it.
I wouldn't mind the lee if it was one piece cast. I had lees before like that that would work itself loose. Maybe a minor inconvience to some, but to me, I just can't deal with it. Actually I don't believe hollow means more rigid. But thats an opinion. Thanks for the post. Just not for me. I may just have a bad taste in my mouth from the Lee 1000 and others. Now after having solid cast its hard to go back to screws and all. Also the last thing I didn't like about the classic press is inconsistent bullet depth. I think it has to do with the plate design. Maybe operator error and closed mind sealed the deal. Glad you like it.
you are still not understanding what im talking about. as soon as i figure out how to better explain it. Ill let ya know LOL
. Ill talk to my uncle ask him how to explain it better he's a machinist and aeronautical engineer with over 40 years of experience in both fields. he's designed and built alot of components, structures and assemblies for boeing and Nasa. Im sure he'll know exactly how to explain what im trying to explain.
07-29-2006 | 01:16 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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From: A flat lander lost in the mountains of Northern,AZ
RE: rock chucker sepreme
ORIGINAL: bigcountry
Oh, I understand perfectly. Its just a huge misunderstanding on alot of folks that you can hollow out a pipe and its more rigid or stiff. A 1/2" bar stock is more rigid and stiff than 1/2" bar stock thats been reamed out.
Oh, I understand perfectly. Its just a huge misunderstanding on alot of folks that you can hollow out a pipe and its more rigid or stiff. A 1/2" bar stock is more rigid and stiff than 1/2" bar stock thats been reamed out.
07-29-2006 | 01:21 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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From: A flat lander lost in the mountains of Northern,AZ
RE: rock chucker sepreme
now im trying to figure what the heck my instructor was trying to explain. he made it sound like it actually makes the piece of steel more rigid. who knows.......
07-31-2006 | 07:55 PM
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RE: rock chucker sepreme
If you are worried about bending the ram on a Lee Classic cast press, you are doing something other than reloading with it
I like the hollow ram just because I don't have to sweep up spent primers that tend to hop all over the place when I use my green press. I have a classic turret on order, I had to buy one after I saw my neighbor's- its a sweet setup. Can't wait to get my first non-singlestage press. [8D]
I like the hollow ram just because I don't have to sweep up spent primers that tend to hop all over the place when I use my green press. I have a classic turret on order, I had to buy one after I saw my neighbor's- its a sweet setup. Can't wait to get my first non-singlestage press. [8D]
07-31-2006 | 08:24 PM
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RE: rock chucker sepreme
ORIGINAL: Briman
I like the hollow ram just because I don't have to sweep up spent primers that tend to hop all over the place when I use my green press. I have a classic turret on order, I had to buy one after I saw my neighbor's- its a sweet setup. Can't wait to get my first non-singlestage press. [8D]
I like the hollow ram just because I don't have to sweep up spent primers that tend to hop all over the place when I use my green press. I have a classic turret on order, I had to buy one after I saw my neighbor's- its a sweet setup. Can't wait to get my first non-singlestage press. [8D]
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