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Personally i don't mind it because i know they will never bust me over anything like that. Like i told you skeeter i had that 190'er in my scope last year and lettem go due to shooting time, and another close to that i let walk because i needed permission due to a farmyard near by. I know it provokes people and is almost like baiting but it really shouldn't make a difference how big the deer is. If your shooting one that isn't legal chances are you have done it in the past and will do it sometime again so your due for a fine. I dunno same with sending in minors to shops to buy smokes and booze then fining the store, it is baiting but like a midget at a urinal ya gotta be on your toes all the time.Think i just figured out how to weed some of the road hunters out of my land. ;)Whats your take on the strategy jeff?

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Dan, I'd be all for it if they employeed the decoy throughout the season vs hardcore in the fading days!! No excuse but it seems they are playing ona natural human fault. WhileI thinkit could be argued as "entrapment" if somebody wanted to take it that far. I have no problems with them using the technique just wish they'd use it other than the last few days.

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I think it's great because there's really not a lot of ways to catch guys doing that stuff other than a decoy. Remember it has to be proven in court. i know the F&W guys here have to abandon a lot of cases bc they cannot prove 100% that it happened even though they know d*mn well it did.

As for timing, I agree the last day is likely to tempt more guys that wouldn't normally do it but still by my count they're breaking at least 5 laws: Shooting at night, from a road, from a vehicle, in a closed season, and on posted land. It would be great to see them out all season but with budgets what they are I imagine they wait till they can get the most convictions for their dollars.

Hia, have you ever seen Crocodile Dundee when the kangaroo starts shooting back. :D You could probably have some fun with that on your land:D;)

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[:@]Take' em2 Court [:@]

Hang'em 2 dry,I lost my 200 + buck this year to some poachers and they didn't even get a slap on the hand. Alberta is so depleted on wardens,it's a joke. But heck if they can get'em, get'em. On another property I hunt another guy was trying to poach but I put an end to his hunt pretty quick with an arrow pointed at his heart at 5 yards. He got the point and was just a kid, but you need to make a point of these guys cause they'll just keep coming back. Decoy the crapout of them. One for the Warden if they can get out:D
Rocky

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I hope you don't equate my response to this decoy question as me not wanting violators to be punished, as that certainly isn't the case. I know exactly why the chosen timing is selected(it's not budgetary either;)). I think they should be targeting all violators vs playing the desperation card is really all I am saying.

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agreed. I wonder, does the timing have anything to do with filling tags before writing tickets;):D

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I don't think i've posted this before but here's the buck my hunting partner took out of the same field we got mine in. I've also got a pic of the buck he shot last year somewhere. It was a huge 4x4, i'll see if i can't track it down.

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Great buck Saska!

as for the decoy tactic; I too think its reasonable. Although they use it less here in BC, they do tend to throw out a 6pt elk in a farmers field the night elk seasn closes.

I think they should use it more often, although i know alot of hunters literally have to road hunt due to physical constraints, but I dont really like road hunting and I think alot of road hunters bend the rules with posted land etc. I duno, just my 2 cents.

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Nice buck saska

aquacher, hows the hunting in b.c.,what do you need?(coats, rifles,etc.)What do you hunt?

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Nice deer there saska, looks to have some of the same genetics as your buck with the spread, tines etc, but does not have all the junk unfortunatley. Still that tine shootin off to the side is pretty weird y'all must have somethin in the water up there. Countin down here boys till wednesday, headin home finally. Hopefully head out to Alberta to work for the break but if not i will be a fishin, yote huntin bum at home.

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Mallard:

Although I have never hunted in Ontario, the only real difference here is we have a lil more of a variety of game than the rest of the provinces. The climate ranges from low to mid 30s (celcius) in the summer/early fall, right down to -30 celcius during the last several weeks of hunting season ( actually we usually hover around 0, but this year was unusually chilly).

Whitetail, Mule, Moose, Elk, Goat, Stone's Sheep, California Bighorn Sheep, Rocky Mountain Sheep, Dall sheep, Black Bear, Wolf, Cougar, Grizzly... those are all on the menu every year, both basically open seasons on everything, depending upon where you hunt in the province. There are probably a cuple species I missed as well.

If you looking for a real trophy, just like anywhere else, you have to hunt hard and long.

As for ducks, well i am not a wing shooter, but I believe we have an abundance of species along those lines as well.

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thanks what would be good rifle calibres?

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Mallard upto griz the .284 & .308 cals are very popular in the west due to bullet offerings, flat shooting, SD and down range energy. Cartridges: 280 rem, 7mm rem mag, 7mm STW, 7mm RUM, etc for the .284 class. .308 cal cartridges: 308win, 3006, 300's (WM, WSM,Wby& RUM). To a lesser extend the .277 cal in 270 win, wby and WSM are also used upto moose sized game.

For grizzly I'd personally feel more comfortable in the .338-.375 cal range.;)

For deer,sheep, etc.257-.308 are used

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Saskabush yeah something just ain't right up your way:eek:. Farmers must be using lots ofgentically modified seedsthat as result isproducing thesemorfed deer! Crappy problem to have sure don't envy you fella's:D:D!

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Talked to my neighbour he went out yesterday and "GONG SHOW". I won't bore you with the entire story/details but he ended up filling his tag with a young buck that was missing his left rear leg at the knee joint and most of his right antler from errand shots. I guess I am wrong in my feelings about the last dance decoy tactics the CO's use:eek:!

On a postive note he sawa couple big herds of elk including a grand daddy back stratchin' hoss, along with 6 moose which included 3 really good bulls in the 45 and up range. Apparently some of the mac daddymoosesurvived this years draw in the hills!! They were hunting E of hanley in the allen hills area BTW. For those unfamilar with this terrain it isn't where elk and moose traditionally live,though they are thriving. A number of years ago SERM transplanted some elk and they took off litterally. The moose have always been around in small numbersbut equally are booming. There has been 60" sheds from moose and 400 class bull elk shedsfound in this area. The elk have been on a special draw for the past 3 years (but the last 2 have been cows only) and moose draw was just introduced this year for this area. So far I haven't heard of many big ones shot in this particular zone but i am sure their were some hogs dropped just like south and W in these open terrains.

Unconfirmed at this point but this moose was either shot in the above area on draw or to the west area around unity/wilkie area(similar first time draw). The mac daddy's farmland produces here in saskatchewan, when nobody has been able to harvest them;)!

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Skeeter-wow thats huge![:-] Also so probalbly gun cabinet would have 22lr., 12ga., .243 .270, 30-06, 308. and a 300 win mag each with atleast 3x9 scopes and up.(except the shotgun)

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Then a good coat and pants, maybe a rangefinder thats it. Well thats what I think is it.

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Mallard near anyone who has grown up here has used either a 270win, 308win or 3006 at one time or another. Well actually I should add the old favorites as well to that list 3030 and 303 british. 300 wm and 7mm rem mags are very popular choices, as is the 338wm for those who hunt elk and larger with regularity. As far as scopes I don't see the need for anything larger than 10x for biggame hunting. Personally if I were assembling a 3 CF cabinet it would look like this:
.257 cal (2506AI or 257 wby) Varmit to deer
.284 cal (7mm Rem Mag) deer to moose
.375 cal (375 H&H Mag) anything that walks;)

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[:@] Dan AKA Hia :D

Dan the man,when you coming to Alberta? Are you going to be in Edmonton at all? If so let me know and we can get together and put a few Pil back if your interested, LOL. It's not to often asmall town boy can get into the big city [8D]Let know bud and we'll hook up.
Rocky
I can set you up with a homemade stand Troy loved when he was here,you can take it home and copy,it cost $29 to make and should last with out creaking at least 7 years then you just get some more wood. Cheap like boarsh.

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Hard to say yf, i talked to my boss today and he didn't know if he could send me out before Christmas or after. Hard to say with that business have to be able to drop everything and be gone in an hour or else your waitin on work for 2 weeks. Haven't a clue when i would be goin or where i would be going but hopefully get out a bit. And us seismic boys are against alcohol, you should know that.:D

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:D Dan :D

LMAO since when does an ole farm boy hang up the bottle???[:'(]Also I thought you had a job as a teacher???[:@]Or are you just going to do the sisemec thing when schools out? [:o]. Well what ever, if you come to the big city drop me a line and we'll head out for an evening of laughs and some swill okay.
Rocky

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Skeet/Hia,

Until i moved up here I had never seen a true non-typ deer on the hoof so I really didn't think much of them. In the 1 1/2 years i've been up here I've seen several, not counting the ones that have been harvested. They are really starting to grow on me. I still love a big heavy typical but seeing some of the junk on these deer is really impressive. BTW, that's a huge fuggin' moose!!!:D

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I am a junkhead as well, be it character points such as split brows, kickers or stickers, drops or knarl that comes from globs of mass..it's all good to me. I too like the typicals but given the choice "take out the trash".

Agree seems as far as whitetails go seeing the true nt's (beside the character stuff) is not the norm for me either. I think that ghostly/dreamimage is why I like them so much.

Yeah I believe that would be the biggest I have seen thus far with regards to a Sask. moose harvested.

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Im just throwing out a question here, what would be your ultimate gun cabinet(I already posted mine.

Also a nice rack to me perfectly symmetrical, fairly wide and tall points. I don't really lke non typicals.

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Dated a girl like that once.:D I have the split g2 gang goin around my place but have never seen a buck alive with droppers or extra main beams or anything. Only in my dreams lol. I think my big boy has some wierd junk on him but i never got that close of a look at him, hopefully get some pics of him in velvet this summer if he makes the winter. Geesh had KFC now fingers are slidin off the keys. As for the ultimate gun cabinet um well if money was not an option i would go with a .17hmr for lil stuff, .220swift for yotes, 7stw for deer, a benelli for honkers, and prolly a .300wsm. elk/moose.

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I would have said the exact same thing two years ago mallard. However, now having seen a few (and shot one) it really has changed my view (not that any preference isright or wrong here).

Since this is an interesting topic, my question for all of you is:

If there were two maturedeer in a field, one a 165 frame typical 5x5, mass, good tines and decent spread. The other is a 175 non-typ, mass, decenttines and spread only a slightly smaller frame, and of course several non typ points. Let's say a 4inch drop, split brows and a 7inch split off the g3. Which would you shoot assuming both are offering the same shot opportunity?

Personnally, i'd pobably spent so much time humming and hawwing over which to shoot that they'd both take off.:DIt would be a tough choice but i'd probably shoot the non typ.

When it comes to guns. I'm not greedy. I am happy with my .280rem, .50cal Omegaand 25-06. I would add a 45-70 for bear medicine while fishing and possibly a 22-250 for yotes and other small critters. I would also pick up another bolt action rifle (not sure on calibre) with a left handed action. Oops forgot, i'd stick with the old Rem 12guage for quackers and add a 20guage O/U for ruffies.

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Dream cabinet...hum let see?

.17hmr (small stuff and play)
22-250 (varmits and paper)
.257 wby (varmits and deer)
7mm rem mag (deer up -back up to the above and below)
.338 RUM (elk and moose)
.358 win BLR (gotta have at least 1 lever in your line up:))
.375 H&H (critters with teeth and small stuff in african)
.416 Rigby (mice to elephant no problems;))

50 cal Savage 10II ML
50 cal TC Encore ML

12 ga 3 1/2" Semi Benelli (waterfowl)
20 ga 3" Semi Benelli (upland)

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saska- i'd shoot the typical and next year the non:D

I'll repost my cabinet

22lr.(target, smalls)
243.(coyotes, wolves and deer)
270(deer)
30-06(elk, bear)
7mm(moose, elk, bear)
308.(elk, moose, bear)
300 win mag(moose, bear)
375(grizzlies:D)

20ga(upland)
12ga(waterfowl)

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:D, you had to find a loophole.

Here's some proof that not all the deer up here are freaks of nature. This is the buck my hunting partner got last year.

I don't know that it's been officialy scored but i think he said it grosses around 180 and nets just below 170. A picture doesn't reall capture the mass that deer had. the brows were both close to 12inches and g2s were 14 or 15 each.

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saska-wow nice buck,Im gonna have to take hunts out west sometime. And yes I had to find the loophole:D

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That is one HUGE 8pt! It's bucks like that keep me on stand ALL day long when when I hunt the Bow Zone in Nov. I'll be up there again in '07, I'm psychedalready.:DCongrats on your friends buck.

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early, how much longer are you going to hold out on us? We want pictures dang it!:D

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I have not forgotten the pics, honest.The PC "Geek" gets $185 to learn ya[:@] so this is a small issue at this point in time. They willget posted.[8D]

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Saskabush that picture proves nothing to your arguement on the freaks grown...them browtines are off the charts on the freak side of things!!;) I like the big 4 frames have to admit...ah heckI like them all who am I kidding:D.

Here is a another HOSS I received via the dead deer line - email!!![8D] No other details then supposedly shot in saskatchewan this fall. (ps you have to love when a deer comes with a built in kick stand for pictures:D)

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Sweet Jesus now thats a deer. Yet another split g2 buck, dum da dum. Lots of junk on that boy and main beams that wrap into the next time zone. Ugly lookin mama but i'm still in love. That buck of sask's bud sure did have some rude tine length. Happy to see these big bucks down yes but makes me wonder, what the he11 am i doin wrong lol. Next year country now. Kinda like a seinfeld epsiode i will refer to next year as "The Season of Dan".God i hope i break 160's.:(

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Boing!!!! Sheesus that's a big buck Skeeter. That almost has the look of a high fencer. Not saying it is , but if that deer isn't the result of a breeding program then i want to hunt his babies!!!Wow, what a pig of a deer.Got any more mind blowing pictures squirreled away in tha tickle trunk of yours?

Hia, i'm with you, i'd give my left nut to to shoot a typ like mat's or better yet that monstrosity skeeter posted.

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skeeter, was just looking at the B&C site and apparently the deer you posted was taken in Kentucky, at least according to trophy watch. Didn't give any details.

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Sb it kinda makes me wonder as well, his nose is long and lean like that of a penned animal. Plus no details really has me wondering, the detail that come are never descriptive but they usually are enough to know its a legit harvest.

Here is a pic of mulie shot just outside of s'toon on the last day. It was at the SWF scoring day and grossed 210, I guess. That's all folks for now, ifI get more I'll post them.

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Good detective work Sb...I'll let theline know this is a pawn job.[:@]

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Holy crappers...early in are they from a digital or 35mm? I am sure between all of us we can learn ya and won't charge 185 bucks to boot!!![:o]