How Do You Rate Burris Fullfield II,s
08-12-2007, 08:34 AM
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RE: How Do You Rate Burris Fullfield II,s
He appherently didn't look up your profile and realize he was arguing a point he knew little about. 27 years as a gunsmith might make you a touch more knowledgeable about guns/scopes and how they work toether!!!!
08-12-2007, 04:20 PM
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RE: How Do You Rate Burris Fullfield II,s
This seems to be a problem when rating scopes. Leopold has several different levels of scopes and there are major differences between each level in optics quality. Each person can get a bad scope or know somebody who has had a bad scope and simply offer an opinion based on their or their buddy's personal experience.
08-12-2007, 05:12 PM
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RE: How Do You Rate Burris Fullfield II,s
ORIGINAL: CalHunter
This seems to be a problem when rating scopes. Leopold has several different levels of scopes and there are major differences between each level in optics quality. Each person can get a bad scope or know somebody who has had a bad scope and simply offer an opinion based on their or their buddy's personal experience.
This seems to be a problem when rating scopes. Leopold has several different levels of scopes and there are major differences between each level in optics quality. Each person can get a bad scope or know somebody who has had a bad scope and simply offer an opinion based on their or their buddy's personal experience.
08-12-2007, 06:07 PM
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RE: How Do You Rate Burris Fullfield II,s
ORIGINAL: bigcountry
Yep, that VX1 is a first rate turd in my opinion. I tested on my bench with a reflection meter, and it was as bad as some simmons. But the VXIII beat out my VariX-III, I just don't want to buy over the 3 piece body design now.
ORIGINAL: CalHunter
This seems to be a problem when rating scopes. Leopold has several different levels of scopes and there are major differences between each level in optics quality. Each person can get a bad scope or know somebody who has had a bad scope and simply offer an opinion based on their or their buddy's personal experience.
This seems to be a problem when rating scopes. Leopold has several different levels of scopes and there are major differences between each level in optics quality. Each person can get a bad scope or know somebody who has had a bad scope and simply offer an opinion based on their or their buddy's personal experience.
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Going on a Ruger Super Redhawk in .480 Ruger with a 7 1/2 inch barrel.
BTW bc, concerning the scopes I pm'd you about....I bought the Burris 3 - 12 x 32 and have looked it over the last few days but i am still not convinced. Its reallynice, but there are several differences between it and the 2.5 - 8 x 28 Nikon and the Burris 2-7 x 32( at least on paper ) ... Do you think it would be wise to at least buy the other Burris and / or the Nikon to do comaprative side by side tests , then either send back the ones I dont want or keep them for later projects, or outright sell them? I believe the Burris 3x12 has great glass ( it was really clear ) , and it might be a super scope, but I am seeing that the eyebox seems critical. That the glass is bright and clear, but the scope is heavy @ 16 oz. ... It is a handgun scope ... for all but bc.... he already knows the story .... except for what is obvious with the increased zoom power, the others are lighter, and about an inch shorter. Also, the others do not have an adjustable obj.
Anyone and everyone ... Please feel free to chime in on this thought line.
Thanks
MET
08-12-2007, 09:26 PM
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RE: How Do You Rate Burris Fullfield II,s
ORIGINAL: MichaelT.
Hey bc, What do you mean by the highlighted above.... I know I'm tired, but I cannot make heads or tails of it.... Haven't slept in 3 days..... going to try to sleep shortly... WIsh me luck , and any prayer is appreciated....
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Going on a Ruger Super Redhawk in .480 Ruger with a 7 1/2 inch barrel.
BTW bc, concerning the scopes I pm'd you about....I bought the Burris 3 - 12 x 32 and have looked it over the last few days but i am still not convinced. Its reallynice, but there are several differences between it and the 2.5 - 8 x 28 Nikon and the Burris 2-7 x 32( at least on paper ) ... Do you think it would be wise to at least buy the other Burris and / or the Nikon to do comaprative side by side tests , then either send back the ones I dont want or keep them for later projects, or outright sell them? I believe the Burris 3x12 has great glass ( it was really clear ) , and it might be a super scope, but I am seeing that the eyebox seems critical. That the glass is bright and clear, but the scope is heavy @ 16 oz. ... It is a handgun scope ... for all but bc.... he already knows the story .... except for what is obvious with the increased zoom power, the others are lighter, and about an inch shorter. Also, the others do not have an adjustable obj.
Anyone and everyone ... Please feel free to chime in on this thought line.
Thanks
MET
ORIGINAL: bigcountry
Yep, that VX1 is a first rate turd in my opinion. I tested on my bench with a reflection meter, and it was as bad as some simmons. But the VXIII beat out my VariX-III, I just don't want to buy over the 3 piece body design now.
ORIGINAL: CalHunter
This seems to be a problem when rating scopes. Leopold has several different levels of scopes and there are major differences between each level in optics quality. Each person can get a bad scope or know somebody who has had a bad scope and simply offer an opinion based on their or their buddy's personal experience.
This seems to be a problem when rating scopes. Leopold has several different levels of scopes and there are major differences between each level in optics quality. Each person can get a bad scope or know somebody who has had a bad scope and simply offer an opinion based on their or their buddy's personal experience.
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Going on a Ruger Super Redhawk in .480 Ruger with a 7 1/2 inch barrel.
BTW bc, concerning the scopes I pm'd you about....I bought the Burris 3 - 12 x 32 and have looked it over the last few days but i am still not convinced. Its reallynice, but there are several differences between it and the 2.5 - 8 x 28 Nikon and the Burris 2-7 x 32( at least on paper ) ... Do you think it would be wise to at least buy the other Burris and / or the Nikon to do comaprative side by side tests , then either send back the ones I dont want or keep them for later projects, or outright sell them? I believe the Burris 3x12 has great glass ( it was really clear ) , and it might be a super scope, but I am seeing that the eyebox seems critical. That the glass is bright and clear, but the scope is heavy @ 16 oz. ... It is a handgun scope ... for all but bc.... he already knows the story .... except for what is obvious with the increased zoom power, the others are lighter, and about an inch shorter. Also, the others do not have an adjustable obj.
Anyone and everyone ... Please feel free to chime in on this thought line.
Thanks
MET
Sight picture if important. Especially with pistols. I myself don't like that high power scope on a pistol. A lower power will be easier to mess with.
Get them and try it out. They also have a 1.5-5 power that i might look at.
08-16-2007, 02:22 AM
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RE: How Do You Rate Burris Fullfield II,s
Hah, I now see where the history between BC and WhitetailCrazycame from.Anyway, all this talk about one piece scopes vs. multi piece scopes is neat, but how many people from either side are ending up with scopes that leak? Thats really the point right? Yah, one piece sounds like the superior design, but how many of these "horrendously" designed Leupolds are leaking? What other benefit does one get out of the single piece design, I would like to know? Pardon my directness, but I guess I was living on borrowed time in the navy when the submarine I was stationed on was not hewn out of a single piece of HY-80, but welded together. I am just damn lucky to be alive 
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08-16-2007, 04:07 PM
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RE: How Do You Rate Burris Fullfield II,s
Follower, if it were welded together, then I would consider it 1 peice.... It's only when you can dismantle something by just unscrewing it, that is what I would consider a multipiece scope!!!!
Folower, I do like FF II's, but as for their higher end scopes, such as their Black Diamond, I don't really care for....... I would much rather have a Leu VX III when spending that dollar amount and or Zeiss....
P.S. Don't tell me you boarded a Sub which was just screwed together!!!!!LOL, just messin"...........
Folower, I do like FF II's, but as for their higher end scopes, such as their Black Diamond, I don't really care for....... I would much rather have a Leu VX III when spending that dollar amount and or Zeiss....
P.S. Don't tell me you boarded a Sub which was just screwed together!!!!!LOL, just messin"...........