Response to 3DI Team Selection letter
11-08-2005 | 07:37 AM
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Response to 3DI Team Selection letter
I received a letter with regards to 3DI team selection and the suggestion that was put forth by the “Board of Director’s very much puts me on the defensive. The letter outlines a selection process that would set up 20 targets at the National Championship Triple Crown events for the sole purpose of competing for a 3DI Team. I realize that this is only one suggestion that was put forth, but I feel that it demonstrates a short sightedness in regards to the entire[/b] IBO membership. I am sure that the IBO Board of Director’s are aware that there are 8 National shoots, but the impression is received that only the 3 National Triple Crown shoots have any significant meaning. I will state as a reminder that not everyone lives in the Northern part of the United States.
I will not nock someone else’s suggestion without offering one of my own, so the following will do just that.
We (IBO) already have a shooter of the year program set up in which 5 of the 8 national shoots determine who the shooter of the year will be, so why not use that system (or one like it) instead of setting up a selection process that will give an advantage to a certain region of the country. I can understand that the timing of the selection of a 3DI team may or may not coincide with the IBO National shoot calendar, and if that is the case then any 5 of the 8 shoots could be selected as the selection criteria as long as it is not isolated to the Northern part of the US. The 3DI selection does not have to be tied to the Shooter of The Year, but it seems strange that you would not want the most consistent shooter on the team. The main point is that some folks are more capable of attending shoots in the Southern part of the US and some in the Northern part, so provide an equitable opportunity to all the IBO membership. As with the Shooter of the Year program, for someone to qualify means that they will have to travel somewhat to get 5 shoots in, but everyone that wants to qualify will have to do some traveling.
In a brief conversation with Ken at one of last years shoots he mentioned a concern that at 3DI competition the yardage was greater than what is normally shot for the LB class. Ken communicated that he felt that a LB shooter selected to the 3DI team was handicapped because they were not competing at the max distance that was being shot at 3DI competions. My answer to Ken’s concern is either move the LB max distance back for all LB shooters or not to worry about it, because the best shooter at 25 yard max will be the best shooter at a 35 yard max.
It is also my opinion that additional targets such as the 20 targets that was suggested at the board of Director’s meeting is unnecessary because every National IBO shoot already has 40 targets that everyone has to shoot. I can only assume that the additional 20 targets would incorporate some other rules that are not part of the LB class, such as a greater max yardage. I reiterate that the best shooter at 25 yard max will be the best shooter at 35 yards. The scores may drop with increased yardage but the results will be the same.
I am sending the IBO administration this letter and will also try to post it on the IBO forum, because I want it understood that my opinions are consistent not only as communicated to the IBO administration but to my fellow LB competitors as well.
Milton Callaway
I will not nock someone else’s suggestion without offering one of my own, so the following will do just that.
We (IBO) already have a shooter of the year program set up in which 5 of the 8 national shoots determine who the shooter of the year will be, so why not use that system (or one like it) instead of setting up a selection process that will give an advantage to a certain region of the country. I can understand that the timing of the selection of a 3DI team may or may not coincide with the IBO National shoot calendar, and if that is the case then any 5 of the 8 shoots could be selected as the selection criteria as long as it is not isolated to the Northern part of the US. The 3DI selection does not have to be tied to the Shooter of The Year, but it seems strange that you would not want the most consistent shooter on the team. The main point is that some folks are more capable of attending shoots in the Southern part of the US and some in the Northern part, so provide an equitable opportunity to all the IBO membership. As with the Shooter of the Year program, for someone to qualify means that they will have to travel somewhat to get 5 shoots in, but everyone that wants to qualify will have to do some traveling.
In a brief conversation with Ken at one of last years shoots he mentioned a concern that at 3DI competition the yardage was greater than what is normally shot for the LB class. Ken communicated that he felt that a LB shooter selected to the 3DI team was handicapped because they were not competing at the max distance that was being shot at 3DI competions. My answer to Ken’s concern is either move the LB max distance back for all LB shooters or not to worry about it, because the best shooter at 25 yard max will be the best shooter at a 35 yard max.
It is also my opinion that additional targets such as the 20 targets that was suggested at the board of Director’s meeting is unnecessary because every National IBO shoot already has 40 targets that everyone has to shoot. I can only assume that the additional 20 targets would incorporate some other rules that are not part of the LB class, such as a greater max yardage. I reiterate that the best shooter at 25 yard max will be the best shooter at 35 yards. The scores may drop with increased yardage but the results will be the same.
I am sending the IBO administration this letter and will also try to post it on the IBO forum, because I want it understood that my opinions are consistent not only as communicated to the IBO administration but to my fellow LB competitors as well.
Milton Callaway
11-08-2005 | 03:40 PM
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RE: Response to 3DI Team Selection letter
Milton I think it would have been short sightedness not to have sent the letter. Now the people in these classes can have an input and maybe come up with a way to make both sides happy. A survey when this all started said of the 3 classes from the white stake only 1 wanted shoot 30 yds and no one wanted face or string walking. So is a qualifying round under 3di rules the answer and it could be done the same as shooter of year that is what is being looked for here. I know evryone does not want to shoot 30yds or 3di so I hope everyone speaks up and responds.
11-08-2005 | 04:37 PM
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RE: Response to 3DI Team Selection letter
EJ if you are talking about the letter that the IBO sent out to LB & RU archers, in an attempt to solicit their opinions regarding the 3DI Team selection, then we are in aggreement. I applaud the IBO administration/Board of Directors for seeing the need to seek out opinions from it's membership.
The short sightedness that I was referring to in my reply was in regards to a suggesting that the selection be limited to the three legs of the National Triple Crown events. There are 8 National events and 9 if we count the World Championship. It is my opinion that all National IBO events should carry a weight of equale importance.
With regards to the survey that you spoke of, I have seen or heard of no survey that addressed the issue of 3DI selection. In fact over the last two years I have seen two or three post requesting information asking for disclorsure of selection criteria, but never an answer. I do remember a survey that addressed rule changes to traditional classes, but I never seen or heard the results even though rule changes were made. In a recent conversation I was told that this was not a survey put out by the IBO administration but by a rules changes committee. I would love to see a summary of those surveys. In the survey that I am aware of I know that I was in favor of shooting 30yrds and I would be very curious to see how other LB competitors answered. I spoke with a number of LB shooters and was overwelmingly told that they too favored 30 yrds. I do know that what is put on a survey and what one tells a fellow competitor can differ. Why the abovewould be I am not sure, but yeild to the possibility.
I too feel and hope that a number of possible opinions on this issue can be seen by not only the IBO administration but the membership as well. In viewing someone else's opinion it may provoke an idea that I and others may never consider otherwise.
One idea that I hesitated to suggest would be a ranking system based on all National IBO shoots. I would envision a ranking system similar to the PGA ranking system. My hesitation tothis type of ranking system is based on my inability to invision an efficient administration of such a system without creating more work for IBO administer and staff.
Milton
The short sightedness that I was referring to in my reply was in regards to a suggesting that the selection be limited to the three legs of the National Triple Crown events. There are 8 National events and 9 if we count the World Championship. It is my opinion that all National IBO events should carry a weight of equale importance.
With regards to the survey that you spoke of, I have seen or heard of no survey that addressed the issue of 3DI selection. In fact over the last two years I have seen two or three post requesting information asking for disclorsure of selection criteria, but never an answer. I do remember a survey that addressed rule changes to traditional classes, but I never seen or heard the results even though rule changes were made. In a recent conversation I was told that this was not a survey put out by the IBO administration but by a rules changes committee. I would love to see a summary of those surveys. In the survey that I am aware of I know that I was in favor of shooting 30yrds and I would be very curious to see how other LB competitors answered. I spoke with a number of LB shooters and was overwelmingly told that they too favored 30 yrds. I do know that what is put on a survey and what one tells a fellow competitor can differ. Why the abovewould be I am not sure, but yeild to the possibility.
I too feel and hope that a number of possible opinions on this issue can be seen by not only the IBO administration but the membership as well. In viewing someone else's opinion it may provoke an idea that I and others may never consider otherwise.
One idea that I hesitated to suggest would be a ranking system based on all National IBO shoots. I would envision a ranking system similar to the PGA ranking system. My hesitation tothis type of ranking system is based on my inability to invision an efficient administration of such a system without creating more work for IBO administer and staff.
Milton
