Pa Bowhunter the PGC's reply to that is they can't micro manage, I wonder why not? Every other state I've hunted does a fine job of it. While I agree that micro management is difficult at best it can be done. The only attempt by the PGC at it though has been a pitiful statement of "hunters need to move to areas where the deer have moved to during the harsh winter last year"..sure let them find unposted land for us to do that onthen we will!!!!

Gee, sounds like HUNTING to me!!!!

I've shot 4 deer so far this year. I have 2 tags left that I still plan on filling. I've filled all my tags with quick clean kills, 3 bow, 1 pistol. I gave 1 whole deer away, and should I fill my 2 remaing tags, I will give a lot more meat away thru the year. Am I a slob?

not wishing to start an arguement but in my book yes, if you killed more than you can use an just killed to do it rather than consume it yourself, yes you are. sorry but if the shoe fits .......
allow me to add: just because you may have access to all those deer in areas of the state where they are over abundant does nothing to justify to me the need of a sportsman to kill and not consume the prey.

Why is PGC always the bad guy???

Don't shoot the messenger. In case you didn't know - I have news: WE DO NOT LIVE IN SASKATCHEWAN. We have over a Million hunters. We hunt the most pressured deer in the Union. It isn't easy. It never will be.

So it is better for those deer to live and possibly cause car accidents and eat people's shrubs than for me to shoot them. It is better for me to stiff my friends who enjoy eating deer meat, but are not able to get venison by any other means. I should tell my dad that even though now he's old and don't get deer like he used to, that he can't have any of the meat that I get. It's not like I shoot these things and let them lay. I butcher them myself and share my bounty with those who will enjoy it. So do you chastize people who plant gardens and have too many tomatoes and zucchini that they give away?

I'd be more than happy to trade my tomatoes and zuchinni for venison. I can't believe I've become a slob for having to many. And when I get any venison whether it be extra or not, I just love sharing. Guess I'm going to hell.

Our current plan is closing more access to private land and farms. with deer numbers dropping, my brother in law has for the first time in hisory now closed the farm and has told the hunters not to come back for 2005 because there are not enough deer to support the family to hunt and outsiders also. A smaller herd means more competition for the remaining resource, and private landowners in my area are shutting the door. The PGC will not change that with 12dpsm (from out level today of 25), it will only get worse.


Buy and burn does not work. While you do without, the guys who drive in a park and hunt will take the excess does. You don't have fenced deer they go where they want. you protect them on your property, your freezer goes empty, but the neighbors harvest away and you suffer no one else.

You have to do a lot more than buy and burn if you are not happy today. You better start writing legislators, tell sportsmans clubs you won't support them unless they support you and your hunting. Writing commissioners is pretty much a waste. They could care less what you want. They are political appointees, if they do not play the herd reduction game they get removed and someone else is appointed in thier place.

The answer is to not buy a license at all, not just the doe tag. Lip service only goes so far, then its $$$$$ that talk.

As far as I know, the State Game Lands are owned by the people, not by the PGC. Anyways, I'm not buying any. I usually get 6 between my kid, me and my wife. My dad won't get one and he usually gets 3.

I think we are treading on dangerous grounds here and playing right in to the anti's hands. All you have to do is sit back and read all these posts for the last couple days and you see fighting among the ranks. What's so hard to understand about guys being upset if in their hunting area they are not seeing deer? And why do we need to criticize guys who's hunting areas are bountiful and they are taking legal deer? What gets me is most we won't take the time to write our representatives in Harrisburg. Anti's do. We'll just continue to argue among ourselves????[:@]