Semi auto rifles in PA
#31
Nontypical Buck
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Okay, not trying to step on toes here OT but you are right and wrong at the same time. What you said about the firearm being able to put it back to semi operation in the field is correct. BUT you obviously haven't dealt with AR's or you would know putting a gas tube back in in the field is a bit more complicated than a simple field strip. It for damn sure aint something that "you could put back in or take out when you saw someone coming". Putting a plug back into a shotgun mag is quite a bit easier than the gas tube on an AR. Granted what mrbb was alluding to was sheer stupidity (I believe he said so himself) but he is in essence correct as far as the law goes. I personally can't see why anyone would want to do it myself other than just being a smartass as there is absolutely no advantage to a manually operated AR over anything.
but if one wanted to it legally can be done was my point
and was ONLY sort of tossed out there due to the one reply about WHAT IF I only had one rifle
well if that's all you could afford and have, then legally you could do this
I would NOT waste my time, push my luck, or hassle a warden to make a call on this, its DUMB 100% IMO
BUT then again a LOT of laws are DUMB too
and well, PEOPLE LOL
but the law is what it is?
#33
Nontypical Buck
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From: Southampton Pa BUCKS CO
#34
PA was the first state to not allow semi automatic single projectile firearms to be used for hunting. Since then there have been people trying to change that. There are always those who want more, no matter if it is needed or necessary, that is human nature. I have one, I want to hunt with it is the reason. There is now a board of Commissioners that is willing to consider the change. The question is, are they willing to do it with a ground swell against it. Based on the comparison with the never ending attempts to get Sunday hunting, I have to say the chances are not good because the only reason PA does not have Sunday hunting of all wildlife, there is Sunday hunting of some, is because of the huge out pouring of opposition to it when ever it comes up. While Sunday hunting is an issued the general assembly must deal with, and semi autos for all hunting is an issue the board of the commissioners must deal with, both are political in nature which means the general assembly will be lobbying one way ot the other so I would not bet against rejection,
#35
As far as Sunday hunting goes, I have YET to see any LEGAL reason or CONSERVATION reason for no Sunday hunting. Hunting is not only a sport for hunters, it is also a tool for conservationists to reduce deer numbers to sustainable levels. And, quite obviously, most people can't find a lot of time through the week to hunt so through the stupidity of those in charge, they are eliminating a vital day of use for a much needed tool. So what if a couple of Sunday's are missed in church. Oh wait, the collection plates will suffer!! Can't be having that now can we!!! No Sunday hunting is just about the absolute most BASELESS regulation on PA's books. Absolutely no legal or conservation reasons behind it. And it's not the "people" rising up against it OT. It's the preachers and deacons thinking their word is the word of all in the congregations when in actuality it's not!! What the hell ever happened to the separation of church and state??
#36
Super, PA has a lot of land owners who consider Sunday in a biblical sense, and who have made it clear they would close their land to hunting if Sunday hunting was instituted, many of these were enrolled in the PGC's public access programs. As a one time PA resident you should know how many Amish, Mennonite, Brethren and other Anabaptist churches there are in the state. Additionally there were a lot of just plain folks who opposed it. There was a large amount of outpouring of public input opposing Sunday hunting each and every time the issue came up. Each time the general assembly was considering it, they held public hearings and at the end of the public hearings the issue died, there were several times this happened. You may not agree with the reasons that people opposed the change but it was legitimate to them and to those who have to stand for re election. The general assembly and the board of commissioners must take into consideration the opinions of everyone, not just hunters when changes are made to hunting laws and regulations. So far as separation of church and state goes, that is not an issue nor can it be used to force the issue since we have Sunday hunting on several species and since the PGC has sole discretion of setting seasons and bag limits and has set Sunday as days to hunt for certain species the days of the week fall under that discretion. That said I did not take a position in Sunday hunting, I used it solely as an example of how public input can and has caused proposed hunting regulations to either pass or be rejected and it is a good analogy, albeit two different issues, the process is the same.
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#37
Except for the Amish and Mennonite I can't think of ONE single person I ever talked to about Sunday hunting that had a single word against it. And you can bet I talked to a LOT of folks about it. They went to those meetings and it was funny that even though there was a ton of them speaking FOR Sun. hunting, it was always cast down. I myself went to a few of those and saw for myself the greater numbers FOR it yet it was always struck down. Yet another instance of the few speaking for the many. It's okay to kill a yote on Sunday but not okay to kill a deer?? Gimmi a break!! It's retarded and purely based on religious fanatics and most DEFINITELY not the wishes of the masses!! I'd bet my bank account that if you polled 2500 PA hunters, 95% of them would say the exact same thing I just did.. It's a stupid and completely BASELESS regulation ruled by religious fanatics period!
#38
Nontypical Buck
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I think yrs back a LOT of farmers didn't want Sunday hunting as there were a LOT more CO OP farms in the mix, and they had a stronger voice in this ruling staying this way
Sunday for many farmers was a DAY of rest and , that was there main reason, plus most back when, were more religious than I think many folks are today in general
also remember if you go back a ways., MOST all folks, or the majority of folks all worked more traditional jobs with traditional hours, working Monday thru Friday
where as now we have a LOT more folks working all sorts of hrs and days
so many view time off on weekends NOW more as THERE time
I personally don't have an issue one way or another, but in the past preferred to have sundays off
but my reason was I hunted every day I could for 3 months straight , and I needed some reason to MAKE me take a day off LOL
so this law gave me a day off to rest up or travel to other area's HAHA!
Sunday for many farmers was a DAY of rest and , that was there main reason, plus most back when, were more religious than I think many folks are today in general
also remember if you go back a ways., MOST all folks, or the majority of folks all worked more traditional jobs with traditional hours, working Monday thru Friday
where as now we have a LOT more folks working all sorts of hrs and days
so many view time off on weekends NOW more as THERE time
I personally don't have an issue one way or another, but in the past preferred to have sundays off
but my reason was I hunted every day I could for 3 months straight , and I needed some reason to MAKE me take a day off LOL
so this law gave me a day off to rest up or travel to other area's HAHA!
#39
There is the rub, poll 2500 PA citizens and you would get a different result. The public input regarding Sunday hunting has historically been against it. Letters and phone calls in addition to those who show up at public meetings are all counted. Once again, this thread is not a Sunday hunting thread but a semi auto firearms for hunting thread and I now regret using it as an analogy as to how public opinion can sink a proposed change to a hunting law or regulation.
#40
Typical Buck
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I once spoke to a game warden and asked if I removed the magazine from my 10-22 and hunted squirrels would that be legal? I was told definitely not as the shell was automatically ejected plus it was not permanent thus not disabling the semi auto capability.


