C'mon, BTB. I actually have more respect for you than this. When I see a glowing red coal in a fire pit, I can see it glowing red hot and even feel it's heat fromsome distance....I don't really have to pick it up and get the third degree burns on my hands just to prove what I already knew. Likewise when my dog leaves a present on the lawn, I know that even though it may somewhatresemble a bigtootsie roll, that it is really just so much dog #&%@, and it smells just like you would expect from something that came from a dog's rear end, and I'm not much for putting it in my mouth out of morbid curiousity or for giving it the benefit of the doubt at that point. Too much damning evidence too ignore at this point, my friend. I too was hoping for an unbiased audit, but it isn't gonna happen.

It makes me wonder where you got that information . Only a small percentage of WMI's projects involved a similar comprehensive review of a states deer management plan. Much of WMI's work involved studies on game birds which involve much different issues than deer management. They even did a report on restoring the pheasant population in PA.

The issue here is that WMI has a conflict of interest and the time to raise that issue is before the audit is conducted , not after it is completed. The issue regarding any bias in the audit will ultimately be determined after the audit is completed.

Zactly bb.

Absolutely nothing good can come from a 100% biased audit, when all it need do is lean slightly one way or another to thoroughly screw the sportsmen of our state.

As for the pgc yes man and his comment on me finding another auditor, I said it once and I'll say it again... I didnt recieve the bids. And if noone were qualified and unbiased, you dont do it. It would be 100% counterproductive. Hunters arent gonna trust it because its clearly biased, no responsible changes will be made, but hey, the crook commission will get their fee increase and that is all that matters to some, right? [:'(][:'(]

Steel, I'm noy saying it should be taken as gospel or that it shouldn't be subject to intense scrutiny once done. Just to be fair, I can understand why you could be skeptical of ANY entity hired by ANY government agency to check out their practices. On the other side, WMI took the job knowing that their work would be under a microscope. All I'm really saying is that it's not fair or even helpful for anyone on any side to claim either a biased or anaccurate result till it's been produced for proper scrutiny.

To use your example in reverse, The pool scene from caddyshack comes to mind. Who knows maybe it will be a dog turd, but lets not drain the pool till we make sure it's not justa Baby Ruth

Sorry if I upset you Corny. Ask mommy to put HNI on the restricted list if you can't handle it. LOL!

Desperation at it's finest. I signed on and responded to a thread asking where I was with exactly one post from a library with a "new" username (btbowhunter56) because my regular password is in my homecomputer memory but not mine.Membesr who've been around more than a few short months will remember HNI used to assignyour password.11 unrelated case sensitive letters. Written down in a notebook but not worthmemorizing when younever need it at home. Sorry if I made you paranoid by using a new username (once) while signing on at a library to resond to a member asking directly about me. You didnt seem to mind when one of your buddies was busted with 7 active usernames. You are indeed a pathetic paranoid whiner.

Not only do I have no idea what poll you claim I voted twice in, I havent bothered to vote at all inyour little poll. Till theres a result, this whole poll is just mental masturbation. But go ahead and have fun, till you go blind that is!

LOL....I ain't draining the pool yet, just ordered the kids out and reaching for the skimmer to fish it out!

And when you do, I would hope that any one and all of us would take a good look before either taking a bite or calling out the hazmat guys

"Desperation at it's finest. I signed on and responded to a thread asking where I was with exactly one post from a library with a "new" username (btbowhunter56) because my regular password is in my home computer memory but not mine. Membesr who've been around more than a few short months will remember HNI used to assign your password. 11 unrelated case sensitive letters. Written down in a notebook but not worth memorizing when you never need it at home. Sorry if I made you paranoid by using a new username (once) while signing on at a library to resond to a member asking directly about me. You didnt seem to mind when one of your buddies was busted with 7 active usernames.

You are a hypocrite. You speak of the polls being skewed due to multiple id votes, yet havent proven ANYONE has done such, yet YOU did!! And you know damn well the poll I meant. The one you voted on the same day you registered your "alternate id". Now I couldnt care less, this is all meaningless, but it did show you to be a hypocrite and now a liar for claiming otherwise.... And btw, it wasnt "one of my buddies". I havent even a clue who it was, didnt know it'd even occurred other than you claiming it did. And we all know what your word is worth! LMFAO!! Sorry you dont like the fact the majority of PA sportsman wouldnt piss on the gameless commission if they were on fire because of all the fraudulent corruption occurring, but one of these days you will learn to live with it. With this fraud rubber stamp audit on the horizon, I dont see those feelings going away anytime soon.

"You are indeed a pathetic paranoid whiner. "
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The only tears I see are yours, as usual keyboard punk. Everytime someone points out the bullchit surrounding your gameless commission. Pull your head out of their arse. They dont need you defending their honor. Guys like you and other dishonest sorts like ecoextremists from audubon shissler etc. just make them look even worse. Running your yap only hurts their credibility further. Kinda like guilt by association.

". Till theres a result, this whole poll is just mental masturbation. But go ahead and have fun, till you go blind that is!"

And again with the sexual references. Are you that big of a sicko pervert? Some of us discuss the issues and dont care for the tasteless b.s. Can't you add to any discussion without being disgusting? Nothing says intellectual like a fur-faced past middle age out of shape balloot talking about masturbation.[:'(]

Just cant handle anyone with a different point of view can ya?

Two words for ya friend.....anger management!

ACtually that would be you my friend. Voicing points of view was exactly what we were doing until you threw your usual personal attack/pro-pgc fit.

Noone said a damn thing to you. No one personally attacked you. People were voicing their opinions on pgc and YOU didnt like them. Thats tough sh**! You jumped in with your bs. as was always your norm anytime anyone says anything about the mismanagement.

We were discussing the issues, and you jumped in FIRST, with; "crybabies", "a little premature to start with this whiney ass crap", "mouth of the south"...."whiners we have that are so screwed up..."

After all that....THEN and ONLY THEN did I retaliate to your nonsense. Im gonna talk about what the hell I want to talk about and if that draws namecalling and insults from you as you've always done in the past, so be it.

This audit is a fraudulent sham and so is the pgc.