No,you're opinion is wrong.That's what got us into the mess we're in now.40 ow dpsm is way too much for vast areas of forested land.Those kinds of densities will quickly devistate the habitat.It's been tried and proven.The vast wasteland of overbrowsed timbercalled the northern tier is testiment.

Doug check your PM's over at huntinPeeAh

Gino

"Gino's a real hunter and he undestands the issues.Labeling him an eco-weenie or whatever is innacurate. "

Id say he qualifies. His credentials. His views. His completely antideer sentiment that goes even far and above that of PGC. If he is not, then noone on this earth IS! His supporting of the guy whom you call a nutcase and hisviews doesnt make him the same?? Is this because of your friendship and looking at it with rose colored glasses? I Dont see much difference between the two?? I believe Gino is more than welcome to his views as extreme as I believe them to be. But I dont understand why one guy you call a nutjob and many other things on 3 different boards, yet another who believe the exact same and has exact deer management philosophies is a "real hunter and understands"????....

"The commission is not listening to Shissler.They shot down every one of his requests."

They listened to him and his ilk for years now. And they gave them their biggest wish. Deer herdextreme reduction. I dontsee how it matters exactly how it got their, fact is it has and continues to take place. Regardless of wether they did itwith or without baiting, witha million or a million point one doe tags or whatever else.

""Doug check your PM's over at huntinPeeAh""

Whatsa matter Gino? Dontlike the fact even Doug, a pgc supporter, has called this tool shissler a whacko and a nutseveral times on 3 different boards so you wanna "enlighten" him as to why he is not?

C'mon man, you're amongst friends and we like to be "enlightened" too... Whatsup withthe secrecy? LOL[:-]

I've never met Gino is person but I know enough about his credentials and views to not label him an eco-whatever.It doesn't meanI can't disagree with himif he thinks Shissler is anything but a wack job.

The PGC did not cave into any of his demands.

"the chair is against the wall, the chair is against the wall", "john has a long mustache, john has a long mustache".

"The PGC did not cave into any of his demands."

LESS DEER=LESS DEER

Gino,congrats, Ithinkthat may be the first non-anti-deer postor hunter bash post Ive seen you make. Trying to turn over a new leaf?

Doug,

The mans views are extreme and from what I have seen, your views are not far behind.

RSB claims the habitat in 2G is controlling the herd at less than 10 DPSM in 2G. Can you explain why the poor habitat in Clinton Co. isn't controlling the herd at less than 10 DPSM?

The size of the deer herd in various parts of unit 2G, just like all other areas of the state, varies between much higher then 10 deer per square mile to much lower then 10 deer per square mile depending on the quality of the various habitats surrounding the area in question. There are areas of unit 2G with way more then even 40 deer per square mile but there are also massive areas with way less then 10 deer pre square mile. The area of the link undoubtedly has some of the best and some of the poorer habitat types indicative of the unit.

Obviously if the deer population, within the West Branchlink area,is only at twenty deer per square milewhile hunters are only harvesting 3.37 deer (2.11 antler less and 1.26 antlered) it is the habitat and environmental conditions controlling their deer numbers. If it weren’t the quality of the habitat controlling the deer numbers there should be at least three or four times that many deer living on that tract of land.

Certainly anyone with even a tiny bit of common sense would realize that hunters harvesting only 2.11 per square mile out of a herd of twenty deer per square mile doesn’t equate to an over harvest of the does.

So, since it is so obvious the does, nor the total deer herds, is being over harvested just what do you suppose is preventing the deer from increasing since you don’t believe it could be the poor habitat and environmental conditions keeping the herd from increasing?

R.S. Bodenhorn