BTBowhunter

Try to follow this. Guess what happens when they don't die young?

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Viola!
Bigger and Better!

bluebird2

But they all didn't die young before ARs. Remember we harvested 52K , 2.5+ buck before any 1.5 bucks were saved by ARs. You claim of bigger and better bucks is intentionally misleading and deceiving , just like Alts's claim of more and bigger bucks than ever before.

bawanajim

Whom is this mysterious "Alt" guy you speak so frequently of?[&:]

BTBowhunter

Taxidermists, processors, hunters all over beg to differ with you.

The evidence is undeniable, except to those in denial.

Bigger, better bucks! Not more mind you, but bigger and better!



Sorry,thatyou can't shoot those spikes any more. Sorry that you apparently cant outwit an adult buck. Take heart though, eventually even a blind pig finds an acorn once in awhile. Sooner or later a deer will come by you. Or maybe you'll hit the powerball. Miracles do happen from time to time.

bluebird2

No one has provided any evidence that shows the average 2.5 buck ,3.5 buck or 4.5+ buck is any bigger than before ARs.

BTW, if you want to start exchanging insults again just remember who started it!!!

bawanajim

Just whom would you like to present you with this evidence?

In your own words the worlds foremost white tail experts have all failed to interpret their own or others data in a way that meets with your satisfaction.

With added food, better over winter conditions andmore breeding competition all of these point in one direction, yet your failure to understand how a these factors are the driving force behind better bucks just shows an unwillingness to foresee great things in the future of PA deer hunting.

BTBowhunter

Not trying to insult you here but you have said the same thing over and over and no one is disagreeing with that line above. Now, without trying to insult you, I'm just asking, Do you not understand the difference between these statements?

A The average PA buck is bigger and better

B The average 2.5+ Pa buck is bigger and better.

Try to follow. A is true because the average age has become older.
B would probably very be false or at teh very least, not proven.

I stated A, you argued with B

Understand the difference yet?

bluebird2

You did not say the average PA buck is bigger and better. This is what you said.
When you compare the size of the bucks in order to have a meaningful comparison you have to compare the size of the bucks in each specific age class. Therefore we don't have bigger better buck, we simply have a higher percentage of 2.5+ buck.

scorp

Your a few brain cells short of reading understanding there.
Proof the PGC and associates of them are morons. I believe I did post the year it was from there sherlock. Let me check again. Yep,look and slow down some.(This from 2007-2008 hanover PA. Down by the lancaster area.) Right at the top of the first post. Go read it einstein. It still doesn't change the facts that hunting in PA and deer harvest are getting worse over the years. And doe harvests are down along with buck harvest. This past year harvests would of been lower than last year if it wasn;t for all the rain on the first day.Doe harvest low and buck harvest is what increased by 4% not the doe harvest.
And when was one not allowed to post past articles on here? This isn't HPA moron and it won;t be deleted so no one can read it. Your on the wrong forum if you think that is going to happen here.So just get over now and slow down on your reading.

scorp

Wheres the data on this btbuthunter