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Gotta thank you both for the explanation! Just never heard that term before.[/align]

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I'm just a little surprised. It's only because in a couple of your reply's,you made reference to shorten the archery season if needed.[/align]Not too many people would ask that,especially archery season.[/align]

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Yes, shorten the season IF NEEDED. If it is found that the archery season is having an adverse effect on the overall health of the deer, you have to do something. What are you going to do? It is probally a mute point anyway. Do you really think our commission is going to come out and say we are killing too many deer? That isn't going to happen until there is a big turnover of people on Elmerton avenue with a whole new and different attitude.

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I understand your point and I respect it. I may not agree with it but, I understand. This probally one of those times where we agree to disagree and I am alright with that. I already knew that I wasn't going to change your mind or anyone elses for that matter. It's not like I am on some sort of mission. Some times you just feel like you need to make your opinion heard. Maybe sometimes you just feel the need to show people that there are different ways of looking at things.

Also, I know what your stance is on crossbows. From your previous post, I know that you are not anti-cross bow. Myself, I am somewhere on the fence on this issue although I can't ever see myself using one. I am somewhat more of a traditionalist at heart. I have a compound but lately I have been using my fathers old recurve more often than not. No sights, no releases, and no mechanical advantage. When it comes to muzzleloading, I tend to think of myself as a traditionalist there as well. I carry a Tennesse Mountain Rifle. I shoot a patched round ball behind a charge of 90 grains of 3F Goex black powder. I don't ever see myself carrying an in-line rifle utilizing shotgun primers, plastic sabots, and black powder substitute. I don't really have a problem with those that do as long as they are safe and legal.

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That just about sums it up for me to. Actually, a return to the way things were in 2000 would light the fire in my butt once again. I miss the traditions.

The changes that we Pa hunters have gone through since 2002 have been a tough period of time. The division between hunters has never been greater, and this latest issue on the crossbow has magnified that division tenfold. I never thought I'd see one faction of hunters accusing another faction of hunters of being lazy slobs, unethical, pigs, etc etc etc. Divided we are, and it almost seems as if we are losing ground each and every day. I believe many hunters are turning their backs on this situation, and becoming individualists and taking whatever nonsense that is dished out by the people that manage our wildlife and going from there and doing their own thing.

Whether you are a conspiricy theorist or a full fledged biodiversity supporter, we are all traveling down a very troubled path if this division continues.

That's my rant of the morning and I'm heading back to my cubicle.

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Personally, I think the other group that got the sort shrift with the crossbow inclusion is the flintlockers. They've asked for a chance at an early flintlock seson for bucks for decades. They were never given even a hint of consideration.

The whole crossbow thing simply reeks. Not because of the weapon itself but because of the process by which it was included.

We need better BOC accountability but the crossbow inclusion railroad is a glaring example showing that pressure from the general assembly is NOT the best way to get things done[:@]

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#1The changes that we Pa hunters have gone through since 2002 have been a tough period of time. The division between hunters has never been greater, and this latest issue on the crossbow has magnified that division tenfold. I never thought I'd see one faction of hunters accusing another faction of hunters of being lazy slobs, unethical, pigs, etc etc etc. Divided we are, and it almost seems as if we are losing ground each and every day. I believe many hunters are turning their backs on this situation, and becoming individualists and taking whatever nonsense that is dished out by the people that manage our wildlife and going from there and doing their own thing. X2

#2 Drop the inline and start an early flintlock seson for bucks only.

#3 Reduce sizes of WMU's.

#4 4 point rack rule statewideincludes youth or mentor hunts.

#5 reduce the CF gun buck season to 1 week then 3 day doe/buck in second week only. Can be regulated based on the outdated PGC deer count or kill statistics.

#6 if you sell huntinglicense, requirement to become a deer check station. All deer must be checkedin and banded.

#7 If I own property in PA and live out of state, opportunitnity to purchase resident license. Out of state property owners pay taxes!

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A bit ironic dont you think? Coming from a guy who supported the crossbow, now you want to take away from other hunters.
According to you, we shouldwelcome the bow youlike but you want totakeawaythe kind of muzzleloader some others prefer. Kind of a double standard dont you think?


Agreed 100% I think there's only one guy here who disagrees with that one.

If a change gets made to AR, science has shown that spread is a better method. Leave the kids alone.

It'd be a cold day in hell before the gun season got shortened to a week in PA

Mandatory phone in or online reporting within 24 hours is working well in states with computerized license system with far less costs than check stations. No doubt our reporting system is terrible but check stations arent realistic

OK for the NR property only! Privileges for anywhere else based on reciprocal rates for the NR's state of residence. You only pay property taxes and maybe a little sales tax while you're here. You don't pay the loadresidents do... income tax, sales tax all year, occupational tax, per capita etc etc.

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Personally I would like only 2 changes. #1 Go back to 1 antlered and 1 anterless deer per season. #2 Allow harvesting of either sex during the early muzzleloader season.

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Mandatory phone in or online reporting within 24 hours is working well in states with computerized license system with far less costs than check stations. No doubt our reporting system is terrible but check stations arent realistic


Good morning BTB,What do you think of filling out a mandatory deer harvest report for the past season,before you fill out the info on the day you are purchasing your new license.I think this will give the PGC data to cross check the report cards that where turned in.