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Cornelius08 03-10-2009 10:43 AM

RE: Changes you would like for Hunting Season
 

Smaller WMU's

Mandatory call in or online harvest reporting within 24 hours of harvest. (feasible once the POS licensing is up and running)

Seperate crossbow license and tracking. If the crossbow skews the archery harvest, shorten the season as needed for that weapon.

Lengthen archery season by adding a week at a time to the early season until the archery harvest is proportionate to the gun harvest as measured by hunter percentages.

Change the selection process for the BOC to better allow for hunter input

Mandatory bowhunter ed for all new hunters using a weapon that propells a bolt or arrow

Put in a COLA type structure for license fee increases
These things are all improvements to current situation. Only thing, Id stop DEAD on the COLA deal, unless The boc situation were rectified and fixed in a meaningful manner as you state in the change selection process for BOC line above, without that measure, ABSOLUTELY NO WAY IN HADES!! (LOL). Even if boc selection process were addressed, then Id be a bit hesitant on a colabecause that is one heckuva big leap of faith. That would basically say that pgc gets paid more routinely, no matter what they do.

Cornelius08 03-10-2009 10:47 AM

RE: Changes you would like for Hunting Season
 
blkpwder a cola is a clause that states that the agency would be regularly granted small fee increases instead of needing approval for one larger fee increase every ten years or so. Currently the fish/game committee must approve license fee increases. If a cola were to be added, no further approval would be needed. Pgc could do as they like and still get paid fee increases no matter what they do, wether we or anyone else liked it or not.

BTBowhunter 03-10-2009 10:50 AM

RE: Changes you would like for Hunting Season
 

BTB,what is a COLA type structure for license fee increases?
COLA is an acronym for cost of living adjustment. Probably not the best choice of terms in this context. What I meant was a mechanism to adjust license fees for inflation without it becoming a political football for the state legislature

Maverick 1 03-10-2009 10:53 AM

RE: Changes you would like for Hunting Season
 

ORIGINAL: blkpowder


ORIGINAL: Maverick 1


ORIGINAL: BTBowhunter

Seperate crossbow license and tracking. If the crossbow skews the archery harvest, shorten the season as needed for that weapon.

I respectfully disagree. At the risk of turning this into a another dreaded crossbow thread, I disagree. We are currently beyond the decision as to allowing crossbows or not allowing them. Like it or not, they are here. Now that they are here, they should be considered as archery equipment and should be fully included in the archery season. If the use of the crossbow is having adverse affects on the harvest then the lenght of the archery season should be adjusted. There should be no distinction made between the crossbow and the compound. I know that is not what you want to here and that you don't like it but, that is the way it currently is and I hope it remains that way. That is my opinion and you are free to disagree with it as much as you want.
Maverick, the first thing I would like to know about you, do you bowhunt?
Yes.

Cornelius08 03-10-2009 10:57 AM

RE: Changes you would like for Hunting Season
 
Unfortunately btb with a cola, not only do you remove that legislative interference, you also further remove the voice of the hunter. The only legitimate voice we currently have with pgc is through those same legislators. Because they cannot completely ignore them as they do us.

BTBowhunter 03-10-2009 11:15 AM

RE: Changes you would like for Hunting Season
 

ORIGINAL: Maverick 1


ORIGINAL: BTBowhunter

Seperate crossbow license and tracking. If the crossbow skews the archery harvest, shorten the season as needed for that weapon.

I respectfully disagree. At the risk of turning this into a another dreaded crossbow thread, I disagree. We are currently beyond the decision as to allowing crossbows or not allowing them. Like it or not, they are here. Now that they are here, they should be considered as archery equipment and should be fully included in the archery season. If the use of the crossbow is having adverse affects on the harvest then the lenght of the archery season should be adjusted. There should be no distinction made between the crossbow and the compound. I know that is not what you want to here and that you don't like it but, that is the way it currently is and I hope it remains that way. That is my opinion and you are free to disagree with it as much as you want.
I agree that we are all entitled to a viewpoint. Mine would be that it's a new and different weapon and that if found to be more effective than the current archery equipment, handle it accordingly.

My point is not necessarily anti crossbow. More that any "new opportunities" shouldn't be at the expense of seasons and opportunities already established

germain 03-10-2009 11:21 AM

RE: Changes you would like for Hunting Season
 
Three day doe season in some WMU's
Seperate method of anterless tags on SGL's and some other public land
Better laws on tresspassing
make it law to never allow all day spring turkey hunting:D
more habitat improvement for grouse
a program like the midwest to open more private land to hunting
make changes or methods of the BOC


DougE 03-10-2009 11:45 AM

RE: Changes you would like for Hunting Season
 
I wouldn't mind seeing public and private antlerless tags being seperate.DCNRdoes it now with dmap along with several of the larger timber companies.It would take amore manpower to individually manage the SGL's though.

BTBowhunter 03-10-2009 11:52 AM

RE: Changes you would like for Hunting Season
 
I think there would be widespread support for seperating public land from private when it comes to doe tag allocations. Perhaps the simple way to go is to use DMAP exclusively for allocating doe permits for public ground.

bluebird2 03-10-2009 12:24 PM

RE: Changes you would like for Hunting Season
 


ORIGINAL: DougE

I wouldn't mind seeing public and private antlerless tags being seperate.DCNR does it now with dmap along with several of the larger timber companies.It would take a more manpower to individually manage the SGL's though.
IMHO both the PGC and DCNR would be against it, since neither thinks there aren't enough deer on public land.


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