Does This Sound Familiar
#13
RE: Does This Sound Familiar
Oh yeah, decisions and policies utilizedbefore 1980 are something that would really fit now.
Lets see before 1980....
Jimmy Carter was elected[:'(]
We waited in lines 20 deep for 3 bucks worth of gas[:'(]
We helped put Sadam Hussein and Bin Laden in power[:'(]
We ran out of Vietnam after grinding up 50,000 brave young men for nothing[:'(]
Oh and wehad a deer management style that put a maximum sustained body count as theonly realgoal[:'(]
Lets see before 1980....
Jimmy Carter was elected[:'(]
We waited in lines 20 deep for 3 bucks worth of gas[:'(]
We helped put Sadam Hussein and Bin Laden in power[:'(]
We ran out of Vietnam after grinding up 50,000 brave young men for nothing[:'(]
Oh and wehad a deer management style that put a maximum sustained body count as theonly realgoal[:'(]
#15
RE: Does This Sound Familiar
ORIGINAL: bluebird2
Did you even bother to read the quote? Did you note they were using the same basic criteria that the PGC is using today?
Did you even bother to read the quote? Did you note they were using the same basic criteria that the PGC is using today?
Actually , it is very important since it demonstrates how the PGC went from an agency concerned about the interest of hunters to an agency that has changed it's priorities to satisfy DCNR and the timber industry.
#16
Nontypical Buck
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Join Date: Apr 2008
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RE: Does This Sound Familiar
We all know that there has been a shift from one of Maximum sustained yeild to an RDD optimal sustained yeild. The terminology to justify both is similar but they are very different management styles
#17
RE: Does This Sound Familiar
I'm not surprised that you minimize the ability of PA's hunters and the members of this board to understand deer management given that you thinkDr James Kroll doen't even understand it.
#18
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Does This Sound Familiar
ORIGINAL: BTBowhunter
I'm not surprised that you minimize the ability of PA's hunters and the members of this board to understand deer management given that you thinkDr James Kroll doen't even understand it.
I'm not surprised that you minimize the ability of PA's hunters and the members of this board to understand deer management given that you thinkDr James Kroll doen't even understand it.
of Maximum sustained yeild to an RDD optimal sustained yeild.
Here is an example of why I said that. RDD is not the optimal sustainable yield as you claimed. RDD standards for the relative deer density, not the optimal sustainable yield.
#19
RE: Does This Sound Familiar
I think it has something to do with a 5 % drop in breathing rates,and that is directly tied to the failed attempts in the past to educate PA hunters about how little we really know about breathing and its affects on our habitat,stable and constant breathing is a goal we should all strive for,not just for ourselves but for future breathers as well.[&:]
#20
RE: Does This Sound Familiar
BB doesnt understand that the breathing rate samples shifted in emphasisto the Marcellus shale shelffrom the non marcellus areas so the drop in breathing rates is really not a drop because the gasses away from the Marcellus are easier to breathe so the breathing rates most likely actually increased