I believe I answered in the same spirit and tone in which you asked the question.

Yep, I keep bringing it up because you still see nothing wrong with what you did.You delivered a message to a young hunter that it's OK to disobey a law simply because you disagree with it or that the law is inconvenient to you. The lesson he gets is the law doesnt matter if he doesnt like it. That delivery came from a person whom this kid probably looks up to as his role model. Being a mentor and role model is abig responsibilityand you dropped the ball completely.

Sorry, but I call em as I see em and this is a big is one not to be dismissed or excused especially when you not only show no remorse, but you actually seem proud of it[:'(]

The [&:]bird is to hunting, what John Wayne Gacy was to clowns.

Even when there is a decline or an increase in the number of youth purchasing a hunting license it doesn’t mean much of anything about youth interest in hunting unless you also know how many youth were of the age to purchase a license during that year or time period.

It is a long known fact that the demographics of the number of youth in our population has changed over the years. We simply didn’t and don’t have as many babies being born now as what we did during some of the past time periods. The first large baby boom occurred when the WWII veterans got home in the late forties. Then there was another smaller baby boom period when those original baby boomers reached the age they started having kids.

I think if you actually studied the demographics of those birth years and numbers you would probably find that we are in a period right now when second round baby boom children have reached adulthood yet before their children are of junior license age.

In short all anyone can do is speculate as to reasons without first collecting all of the data required to look at and fairly evaluate all of the factors and possibilities for the peeks and valleys in junior license sales.

R.S. Bodenhorn

The salesfigures Venesky used for his column, reflect actual sales toJan. 2009, not the figures posted on the PGC site.

"Overall, the Pennsylvania Game Commission sold more than 2.48 million licenses as of January, almost 14,000 more than the 2007-08 season".

Reread your link. The questions were in 2003 hunting season. Consider the fact those surveyed had just hunted through the late 90's, + 2000, 2001, and 2002...
The highest harvests ever + 200k+ buck harvests. Also some of the highestherd sizesever.

Thank Hr. Its currently a significant, if not #1 factor why our ranks continue to drop like flies.

""The salesfigures Venesky used for his column, reflect actual sales toJan. 2009, not the figures posted on the PGC site.""

Fact remains the number of hunters has FALLEN. Again! Instead of adding up the archery tags/ squirrel tags (LOL)/ turkey tags etc. Quit twisting the facts and see the general license sales.

The mouthy minority has beenwhining about a percieved lack of deer since the first bonus tag rolled off the presses in the 80's just as they do now. Heck, I even remeber seeing the fanatics tacking up "no doe hunting" signs in the 60's. The lack of deer reason is no more relevant than it'sever been and no more significant statistically.


Your opinion. That's all. You havezero proof. Shouting it over and over is not proof.

"The mouthy minority has beenwhining about a percieved lack of deer since the first bonus tag rolled off the presses in the 80's just as they do now."

I agree to a point. TheyWERE the mouthy minority. Now they're the pi$$3d off majority. Thats a fact. There comes a time when the grumbling is no longer the norm by the "unpleasable" few. We passed that point long ago. The majority doesnt support hr as is. The majority doesnt trust pgc currently.

You speak of the "complainers" of yesteryear, yet forget we also had the RADICAL EXTREMIST nincompoops too. The ones who preached that deer were the devil himself and that they were destroying the forests just a few years after they were reintroduced!!! (LOL) Then let us not forget the other idiot that got booted from the commission for his extremist views....The hero of the anti-deer movement...Latham. (LOL)[:'(] Well our current pgc needs to pull a "modern day Latham" and clean the extremist idiots from our agency.

"Heck, I even remeber seeing the fanatics tacking up "no doe hunting" signs in the 60's. The lack of deer reason is no more relevant than it'sever been and no more significant statistically."

Sure it is. Its much more relevant. Hunters have experience higher deer densities andnow know there are no reasonswhy we have tohold the herd to the extremes its been taken, other than to cater to audubon society and "other" interests. Also, seeing as there are more things competing for ones time, especially youths, its more important thanever to provide aquality experience. Not gonna happen with rock bottom numbers and even worse, not gonna happenwhen theirdad quit 3 years before . (LOL)

"Your opinion. That's all. You havezero proof. Shouting it over and over is not proof."

Facts are facts. You dont have to like them. HR has reduced our numbers. If one person quit due to hr, it reduced our numbers! And it reduced our numbers a helluva lot more than ONE! (LOL) Soon as the clowns at the ecoextremeist commission realize that, or get the house cleaned out and the new commissioners ADMIT the problems, they cannot be solved.

Your opinion. That's all. You havezero proof. Shouting it over and over is not proof.

Maybe you should try even bigger bolder letters LOL

Facts are facts. You dont have to like them.