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Old 02-09-2009 | 04:21 PM
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kinda corny of corny
I guess we shouldn't be so hard on old Cornelius




He actually reads pretty good for his kind!!

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Old 02-09-2009 | 05:04 PM
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imho no to baiting of big game
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Old 02-09-2009 | 05:59 PM
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imho no to baiting of big game
I agree 1000%

I think most of the guys here agree on that and so does the PGC. This is a cheap shot by a small bunch of jerkweed legislators who can't stop sticking their nose into game management.
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Old 02-09-2009 | 07:02 PM
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The statewide pheasant season just ended last Saturday but I have been seeing dozens of pheasants right here in Elk County, (yes we have some great pheasant hunting in this area with plenty of birds left after the stocking ends) as they came into residential bird feeders to find food during these periods of deep snow. Some of those birds survive to reproduce every year. But, they wouldn’t if those people shot them when they came in to eat at the bird feeders during the winter periods when they are still in season.
Can you explain why the stocked pheasants survive the severe winters in Elk and reproduce in the spring when the stocked pheasants in 5 C with mild winters and prime farmland and pheasant habitat fail to survive and produce broods?

Pheasants survive much worse winters in South Dakota.

It seem that perhaps the winters don’t limit pheasant reproduction as much as today’s farming methods and hay mowing schedules do. Up here we don’t have much hay mowing so the brooding hens aren’t getting their heads chopped off with a hay mower in early June like they do in most farming areas. Our pheasants spend their springs and summers on reclaimed strip jobs where there not only is no hay mowing but an abundance of grassy cover with plenty of insects.

The local Pheasants Forever Chapter is also one of the leading in the nation in money spent on both winter and summer habitat development. In fact I just got back from one of their meetings where they were planning winter work projects for the pubic to get involved in habitat work on both the game lands and private lands in the primary pheasant habitat areas.

Having people and groups working together with the Game Commission for the benefits of wildlife, instead of just complaining and undermining, tend to make a pretty positive difference, I guess.

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Old 02-09-2009 | 07:10 PM
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IF pgc wouldnt give such strong reasons for people to complain, maybe they wouldnt.

Sorry, stocking a few tame pheasants isnt gonna get hunters toturn a blind eye to an ecoextremist orienteddeer plan. FAR more hunters are DEER hunters first and foremost.

Carl Roe can point to squirrel and you can point to pheasant, but hunters arent interested in the distraction for the most part.
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Old 02-09-2009 | 07:10 PM
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Just because hunters don't want something, mean nothing. Remember the cross bow vote.

If DCNR wants baiting, it could become legal on DMAP lands.
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Old 02-10-2009 | 04:00 AM
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The statewide pheasant season just ended last Saturday but I have been seeing dozens of pheasants right here in Elk County
If you are seeing dozens of pheasants ,why aren't the predators seeing those same birds and having an easy dinner?

In the Dakotas the pheasants have the protective cover along streams and ditches with windswept corn fields to provide food. What do the pheasants eat in Elk with 2 ft. of snow cover and no grain fields?
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Old 02-10-2009 | 04:48 AM
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The statewide pheasant season just ended last Saturday but I have been seeing dozens of pheasants right here in Elk County
If you are seeing dozens of pheasants ,why aren't the predators seeing those same birds and having an easy dinner?

In the Dakotas the pheasants have the protective cover along streams and ditches with windswept corn fields to provide food. What do the pheasants eat in Elk with 2 ft. of snow cover and no grain fields?
Your belittling attitude is getting old, why must every one repeat things over and over only to have you claim its all bs any ways. You were already told what the pheasants in Elk county eat.
Some of those birds survive to reproduce every year. But, they wouldn’t if those people shot them when they came in to eat at the bird feeders during the winter periods when they are still in season.
Just like the slim fast commercials I guess every thing needs repeated over and over.For the little [&:]bird to get it.


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Old 02-10-2009 | 06:53 AM
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If Elk County is such a great area for pheasants to live and breed, why are hunters allowed to shoot hens? Why do we have an extended season from Dec. 15 until Feb. 7?
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Old 02-10-2009 | 06:59 AM
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The statewide pheasant season just ended last Saturday but I have been seeing dozens of pheasants right here in Elk County
If you are seeing dozens of pheasants ,why aren't the predators seeing those same birds and having an easy dinner?

In the Dakotas the pheasants have the protective cover along streams and ditches with windswept corn fields to provide food. What do the pheasants eat in Elk with 2 ft. of snow cover and no grain fields?
in most of SGL land here in wmu2g, most of pheasants are gone the first week after stocked.

hunting and predators are reason..i was at millers gun shop and talked to lee ann.

she said they stocked pheasants on their land and did not hunt them for a week.

she said MOST were gone,it had to be fox,coyotes that did it and i would put FOX at top of the pheasant killers.
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