Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)
02-12-2009, 02:41 PM
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RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)
Two bucks per hunter would not work in PA. I neglected to say that when saying that the Texas plan sounded plausible here. I should have said that the Texas AR's sound plausible without the second buck part of the package.
02-12-2009, 05:05 PM
#125
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RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)
ORIGINAL: bluebird2
Another problem with the TX ARs is that making bucks with up to 3 pts. legal would result in a big discrepancy in the number of bucks saved in various WMUs. In Allegheny Co. only 24% of 1.5 buck had 3 pts. or less ,but in Cameron Co. 63% of the 1.5 buck would have 3 pts. or less. Then if you add the 1.5 buck that would be AR legal in cameron, very few 1.5 buck would be saved.
Two bucks per hunter would not work in PA. I neglected to say that when saying that the Texas plan sounded plausible here. I should have said that the Texas AR's sound plausible without the second buck part of the package.
The real problem with the Texas AR's is similar to PA's AR's and AR's everywhere. That problem is that there is nothing that will ever satisfy the little [&:]bird short of returning to the failed ways of the past.
02-12-2009, 05:48 PM
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RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)
The real problem with the Texas AR's is similar to PA's AR's and AR's everywhere. That problem is that there is nothing that will ever satisfy the little bird short of returning to the failed ways of the past.
02-12-2009, 06:40 PM
#127
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RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)
ORIGINAL: bluebird2
The failed ways of the past produced a buck harvest of 165 K and a 2.5+ buck harvest of 52,900 in 2002 . The new and improved deer management produced a buck harvest of 109K with only 48,048 2.5+ buck. And at the same time the new and improved deer management resulted in a 5% decrease in breeding rates along with decreased productivity and much lower antlerless harvests.
The real problem with the Texas AR's is similar to PA's AR's and AR's everywhere. That problem is that there is nothing that will ever satisfy the little bird short of returning to the failed ways of the past.
Do this 200 times and get back to us when you understand
02-12-2009, 06:50 PM
#128
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RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)
Repeat after me: AR is not HR ..... HR is not AR
02-12-2009, 07:01 PM
#129
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RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)
ORIGINAL: bluebird2
ARs have resulted in a reduction of the buck harvest by over 10K buck/year since 2002 ,due solely to non-hunting mortality of the bucks saved by ARS. Therefore ARS = buck (HR)herd reduction!!!
Repeat after me: AR is not HR ..... HR is not AR
Now try again AR is not HR...... HR is not AR
02-13-2009, 01:51 AM
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RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)
ORIGINAL: bluebird2
Apparently you are forgetting that the TX plan allows for the harvest of 2 buck /hunter . Due the number of hunters in PA and the effects of HR, the PGC can not allow 2 buck /year so IMHO the TX plan will not work in PA.
Apparently you are forgetting that the TX plan allows for the harvest of 2 buck /hunter . Due the number of hunters in PA and the effects of HR, the PGC can not allow 2 buck /year so IMHO the TX plan will not work in PA.