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bluebird2 01-17-2009 04:05 PM

RE: Pa Antler Restrictions
 


ORIGINAL: bowtruck

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pats102862 01-17-2009 04:25 PM

RE: Pa Antler Restrictions
 
As far as crop damage goes . farmers are going to blast them no matter what age they are.

bowtruck 01-17-2009 04:28 PM

RE: Pa Antler Restrictions
 
most farmers dont do that

bluebird2 01-17-2009 04:29 PM

RE: Pa Antler Restrictions
 
While that is true , the more 1.5 bucks that are saved, the more 2.5 bucks will be killed for crop damage. It is simply a matter of statistics and the law of averages.

R.S.B. 01-17-2009 05:42 PM

RE: Pa Antler Restrictions
 

ORIGINAL: bluebird2


ORIGINAL: pats102862


ORIGINAL: bluebird2

there is no denying the fact that the more buck that are carried over the more will be lost to non-hunting mortality.

I think I see the point you are trying to make. You let a buck go to next year. There are more mature bucks who think they have the right to breed. The more maturebucks out looking for x amount ofdoes the better chance of them getting spladdered on the highway.
You got that right. Then add the number that are poached, those that are killed due to crop damage and other forms of non-hunting mortality and you end up with a lot less legal buck to be harvested.

Even though some deer of all age classes are subject to non-hunting mortality the buck mortality studies prove once a buck makes it through their first hunting season their non-season mortality is greatly reduced.

The bucks that are being killed by non-hunting mortality are those younger bucks out there before their first hunting season with antlers on their head. If they make it through that hunting season their likelihood of making it the next hunting season is pretty good.

To see the study go to this link.

http://www.pgc.state.pa.us/pgc/lib/pgc/reports/2006_wildlife/21009-05.pdf

R.S. Bodenhorn

bluebird2 01-17-2009 06:04 PM

RE: Pa Antler Restrictions
 

If they make it through that hunting season their likelihood of making it the next hunting season is pretty good.
With 18% non-hunting mortality , the vast majority of 1.5 bucks saved by ARs will survive. but that does not negate the fact that 18% won' survive and that 18% is what reduces the sustainable buck harvest,

BTW, statewide breeding rates declined despite of Ars and HR and you haven't provided a single fact to refute that.

livbucks 01-17-2009 06:08 PM

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BTW, statewide breeding rates declined despite of Ars and HR and you haven't provided a single fact to refute that.
You sound like Morrie on Goodfellas.


bluebird2 01-17-2009 06:17 PM

RE: Pa Antler Restrictions
 
You sound like you don't have a clue about deer management.

livbucks 01-17-2009 06:59 PM

RE: Pa Antler Restrictions
 
Remember what Tommy (Joe Pesci) said to Morrie right after he slid the ice pick into his brainstem?

livbucks 01-17-2009 07:39 PM

RE: Pa Antler Restrictions
 
Watch the scene for the answer..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elrIcMX3yNI


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