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BTBowhunter 01-17-2009 02:11 PM
RE: Pa Antler Restrictions
 
ORIGINAL: bluebird2

AR didnt reduce the buck harvest, HR did
As I said, guys that support ARs don't understand the basic concepts of deer management. The more bucks that are saved by ARs the more bucks will be lost to non-hunting mortality. For example, if ARs saved an additional 40K buck in 2007 with a non-hunting mortality rate of 18% ,7,200 of those buck will be lost to non-hunting mortality which would reduce the buck harvest by 7,200. And ,if 20% of the 2.5 buck weren't AR legal as 2.5 there would be 6,560 fewer legal buck so the total reduction in the buck harvest just due to ARs would be 13,760 buck.
That is simply ridiculous. To suggest we should kill em all right away because they might die next year iscompletely delusional.

Just another desperate TWIST by Blueboy

bowtruck 01-17-2009 02:21 PM
RE: Pa Antler Restrictions
 
that is a funny way of thinkin let them go year a year and it will hurt the herd lmbo
how?

explorer_Jack 01-17-2009 02:37 PM
RE: Pa Antler Restrictions
 
ORIGINAL: BTBowhunter

Plenty of guys on here from other states that hunt PA. Are you saying they shouldnt be able to vote?

If you hunt PA thanks for your vote. If you don't, why would you bother voting just to "skew things up" ?
Yes,they shouldn't be able to vote. It is not their state and they don't live there.It is none of our bussiness of how you govern your own. So the vote from out of state hunters should be void. How would you like questionaires sent to NY for us to ask what PA could do to betteryour hunting and stay here?That is wrong.It's not up to us and the same for our state,It's not up to out of staters to have a say in our management.

bluebird2 01-17-2009 03:01 PM
RE: Pa Antler Restrictions
 
That is simply ridiculous. To suggest we should kill em all right away because they might die next year is completely delusional.
It is you that is being ridiculous because I never said we should kill them all because they might die next year.
The only way you can defend your position is to lie about what I post.


In 2002 we harvested 52,602 , 2.5+ buck ,before a single 1.5 buck was saved by ARs, so even with ARs we didn't kill them all before ARs were implemented. but, there is no denying the fact that the more buck that are carried over the more will be lost to non-hunting mortality.

So the only delusional hunters are those that deny the reality that ARs decrease the buck harvest and decrease the size of the racks on the average 2.5+ buck.

bluebird2 01-17-2009 03:28 PM
RE: Pa Antler Restrictions
 

ORIGINAL: bowtruck

that is a funny way of thinkin let them go year a year and it will hurt the herd lmbo
how?
No one is saying that but you. And what the heck does "hurt the herd lmbo
how?" mean?

Protecting 1.5 bucks doesn't hurt the herd but protecting 2.5+ buck may.

bowtruck 01-17-2009 03:35 PM
RE: Pa Antler Restrictions
 
twist you wonder why noone replyed to the thread you tried to start the other day

pats102862 01-17-2009 03:39 PM
RE: Pa Antler Restrictions
 
ORIGINAL: bluebird2

there is no denying the fact that the more buck that are carried over the more will be lost to non-hunting mortality.
I think I see the point you are trying to make. You let a buck go to next year. There are more mature bucks who think they have the right to breed. The more maturebucks out looking for x amount ofdoes the better chance of them getting spladdered on the highway.

bluebird2 01-17-2009 03:57 PM
RE: Pa Antler Restrictions
 

ORIGINAL: bowtruck

twist you wonder why noone replyed to the thread you tried to start the other day
No, I don't wonder why no one replied, because I know there are no AR supporters who can refute what I post.

bluebird2 01-17-2009 04:01 PM
RE: Pa Antler Restrictions
 

ORIGINAL: pats102862

ORIGINAL: bluebird2

there is no denying the fact that the more buck that are carried over the more will be lost to non-hunting mortality.
I think I see the point you are trying to make. You let a buck go to next year. There are more mature bucks who think they have the right to breed. The more mature bucks out looking for x amount of does the better chance of them getting spladdered on the highway.
You got that right. Then add the number that are poached, those that are killed due to crop damage and other forms of non-hunting mortality and you end up with a lot less legal buck to be harvested.

bowtruck 01-17-2009 04:02 PM
RE: Pa Antler Restrictions
 
it may be you not topic:)


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