RE: NYC Hunting Alliance Movement - NYCHAM
 

Here again, another lame attempt to divert attention away from the fact YOU STILL HAVE NOT ANSWERED MY QUESTION! Ideas mean nothing, regardless of their merit, without a way to implement them and you adamantly refuse to say how you plan to do that. I have not questioned your ideas, just your ability to put them into practice. So stop trying to BS everybody and tell me how you plan to get your NYC reps. to move your agenda through the legislature?

RE: NYC Hunting Alliance Movement - NYCHAM
 

So you don't want discussion - simply agreement with your views and methods to push them.
You refuse to answer questions that you know will weaken your position.

Who is being childish and close minded.
Oh, and ignorant?

Steve

RE: NYC Hunting Alliance Movement - NYCHAM
 

He calls us narrow-minded selfish people, yet he has failed to respond to mountains of data, valuable questions, and our civility except to kick and scream that we aren't being fair. Boy if you aren't the very definition of a manhatten drama queen.

I don't have anything against any hunter, but I do loathe NYC with a passion. It has brought nothing but trouble to my beloved mountains and with it the scourge of the universe as far as people are concerned. NYC continues sending embassadors upstate claiming they know best but they really only wish to control and keep us under their thumb. I speak of course of DEP.

They build multi-million dollar houses and drive our taxes sky-high, driving most of us out. Every restaurant in town is closed with the exception of one owned by a wealthy man from Brooklyn whose prices are so high we can't afford to eat out. During hunting season there are two nuicenses, the ones who actively seek to spook the deer so we can't shoot them (anti's) and those who consider themselves hunters but who actually just want to shoot anything that dares to move. It is true that NYC hunters aren't the only poachers, I've known many in my time, but up here poaching is usually for food, not trophy or bragging rights. Many a goat, horse, cow and dog has been dispatched by inexperienced city hunters who don't even know what a deer is let alone how to properly operate a firearm.

On the weekends my town is overrun with the likes of stuck-up, snobby, know-it-alls who toss around their money as if it impresses us. They cry wolf at every turn, calling the police, fire department, and ambulances if someone so much as sneezes in their direction. Well if they think we're the children of the friggan corn, maybe they should stay out!

Of course I don't speak for every city person. My boyfriend is from the Bronx, and some of my good friends grew up in Manhatten (though they had the smarts to move out). However, there is a mass majority that I'd prefer never left the confines of the city.

RE: NYC Hunting Alliance Movement - NYCHAM
 

That was the most ridiculous thread I have ever read. I actually feel terrible about the 15 minutes I lost that I can never have back, spent reading it. Wow.

RE: NYC Hunting Alliance Movement - NYCHAM
 

Happy we could help:D;) Don't think of it as time wasted, think of it as time that you took out of your busy life to depreciate your IQ so that you too may understand some of the "logic" going on here.

RE: NYC Hunting Alliance Movement - NYCHAM
 

Huntingirl -- you have some real resentment issues that should be worked out between you and a medical professional.
You speak of being a Manhattan drama queen and you can't even spell it. I and the restaurant owner have nothing to do with your issues. Something has gone wrong in your life and you are blaming everyone else for your misfortune. Do you realize that you are ranting hysterically? "Well if they think we're the children of the friggan corn, maybe they should stay out!" Your issues have nothing to do with hunting or conservation.

RE: NYC Hunting Alliance Movement - NYCHAM
 

Can an outta stater ask a question? Why in the world would a supposed deer "management" organization identify themselves with New York City? Do hunters from the Big Apple know better than their country bumpkin counterparts what's best for the states herd? It does sound like a bunch of city slickers telling the rest of the State what they should/should not do. I can definitely see where the resentment comes from. BTW, I'll be bowhunting Westchester County the first of November. Wouldn't mind visiting NYC, but it's not high on my to do list.;)

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Huntingirl 89 you have the right to your opinion about hunters from the city, but I do think you are painting them with a broad brush. Others who come up from the city to buy property, restaurants, etc. are not necessarily hunters, in fact, most are probably not, so you probably shouldn't lump everyone from the city together. Besides, as I mentioned in an earlier post, hunting in NYS is slowly but surely dying which also means there are even fewer coming up from the city to hunt. Your prayers of not seeing city hunters anymore will surely be answered one day soon. I can assure you that many hunters from the city don't believe in or want any form of AR's. NYC Hunt AM is acting like some sort of voice of city hunters which he most defintely isn't. He says he wants to debate this issue and then calls everyone ignorant when they say anything that doesn't agree with what he believes. He says discussion amongst civilized people is wonderful and he is the one acting the least civilized.

RE: NYC Hunting Alliance Movement - NYCHAM
 

First of all silly man, some of us work for a living as well as attend college full time. My fatigue is to blame for my misspelling, not that I need to explain anything to you. Secondly, only the first line was intended for YOU, which you ignored completely and instead decided to insult me and question my sanity. My answer was intended to show a previous posterthat indeed my hatred of NYC and those in it has little to do with hunting, and since you seem to have comprehended at least that, perhaps there is hope for you in the future. I was not bantering hysterically, merely pointing out a few reasons why I have issues with the pit of hell totheSouth. I find no problem with true hunters, no matter where they call home, so long as they aren't out there for just a head on the wall, which you seem to be and have failed to prove that your program is for anything but.

Your efforts at making us appear unintelligent are in fact turning against you. This thread is getting more and more ridiculous and your last post to me actually made me laugh out loud. Please give up, you've lost all credibility and I just don't think my sides can take it anymore.

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I probably should have been more clear in my post. I like to see hunters, and make many new hunting partners every season by just meeting people at 4:30am in the gas station. I don't care where they come from, so long as they are knowledgeable, or at least willing to learn, and ethical. It is horrible that hunting is disappearing in the state, which is why I believe that through education we might be able to attract an interest in the younger generation. Children from all corners of the state need to be taken into the woods and taught properly by someone who knows what they are talking about. There used to be a camp in my town where inner city kids could come up and learn about hunting, fishing, camping, farming, etc. It was funded by NYPD through grants from the city. Around 1999 the grants were pulled and the camp shut down. The land was sold to build condos, which seems to be the new fad up there. With the disappearance of places like this as an outlet to city kids, so goes the passion for the environment. I've taken people into the woods who have never been outside of the Bronx and awakened in them something they thought they could never have. All it takes is the education of just one person and for them to teach others.

I do apologize for the misconception that I despise NYC hunters, I hate the business owners, the richies, NYC gov't, and all of the other rude miscreants that make their way up there, and there are a few who just happen to have a gun in their hand during the season whom I do not consider hunters.