RE: PA antler restriction
 

Please tell us where you got your 20% number.
Assuming for a moment that the 20% is anywhere close,
20% is way better odds than they used to have. Thanks for making my point.

RE: PA antler restriction
 

In addition to making Bob's point, you are comparing two different subjects.
Sounds all official to the casual reader, but it is pointless in reality.

RE: PA antler restriction
 

Why oh why do I do this?

It's the proverbial train wreck....I just can't help but click on this thread, and then I feel ashamed for doing so moments after I read it[&:]

RE: PA antler restriction
 

I already told you it came from the Antlered Buck Study. Prior to ARs the survival rate for all buck was 80%. Alt used the 85% figure from just a few WMU's in order to sell ARs.

RE: PA antler restriction
 

No, that is not true. The bucks saved by ARs need to survive non-hunting mortality before they can survive hunting season. So the two subjects are directly related.

RE: PA antler restriction
 

According to the antlered deer mortality study, post season buck mortality is less than 3% so whats your point?

http://www.pgc.state.pa.us/pgc/lib/pgc/reports/2005_wildlife/21009-04.pdf

RE: PA antler restriction
 

The point is that even though they suffer low non-hunting mortality ,only 20% survive to become 3.5 's ,so very buck ever reach 4.5 year that it takes the average spike to catch up with the avg. 1.5 6 or 8 pt. and that's why ARs result in high grading.

RE: PA antler restriction
 

LOL!That statement is one big DILLIGAF. Before AR's even fewer got to that age. How you can translate that into a deterioration of antler size over time is just ridiculous.

RE: PA antler restriction
 

I can wait, no problem here.
I'd rather have a chance to shootone4.5 year old deer every decade, thanten 1.5 year oldsper decade.

RE: PA antler restriction
 

What is even more ridiculous is that you and Livbucks can't comprehend such a simple principle as high grading. But ,when you consider a QDM guy like Kroll couldn't understand it either ,I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

What happens if you cut all the oak,cherry maple and ash from a stand and leave the beech,gum, striped maple ,red maple and hop hornbeam. What happens is you have high graded the stand and the remaining stand will have little or no value.