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No you didn't. You simply posted your opinions. You didn't come close to showing that I lied about anything.

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Again, you are absolutely right here. In general I would have to say that avid trophy hunters get more involved in the decision making process with the game departments because they will care more about the possible benefits than the weekend hunters who are actually the majority of people who will purchase hunting licenses. As you said, the more vocal ones will get the game departments to listen even if it's BS what they are saying. A state like Illinois WILL probably go to AR restrictions. They will see it as something that could possibly bring in even more money to the state since they could have another good excuse to raise non-resident licenses even more. To me a game department should be in charge of controlling a deer population. The antler size of the male deer that get shot or survive should not matter in the least to them, since in the scheme of things, it doesn't matter one bit. They should be concerned with deer numbers and not antler points. Leave the antler points to the trophy hunters who will get their wierd macho thrills by having a bigger racked buck to show off!

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Even though I live in WV, I spend a lot of time in PA. I live close to the border. I am getting ready to leave the house right now to go to PA and shoot some ground hog's. I have been seeing a lot of good deer this year in PA and WV. It looks like it is going to be a good year.

As stated earlier I can not argue about deere management in other areas of PA, but I can guarantee you that the herd has improved in our area-and IMO it is because of AR's. It could be somethi ng else, but I believe it is AR's.

As far as BB's are concerned. It should be illegal to shoot BB's. The bottom line is if you are not sure then DO NOT SHOOT. Any hunter who can not tell the difference does not need to be in the woods. Tom.

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In order for the PGC to get the antlerless harvest they desire,they have to include BB in the definition of antlerless deer. Remember, many hunters don't have the opportunity to study a deers physical characteristics before taking a shot. Guy's that hunt 2G where the sustainable antlerless harvest is less than 2 deer/SM don't get to see a lot of deer and after the first day very few deer stand around long enough to have their picture taken.

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BlueBird I hear what you are saying. And I really do not mean to be argumentative. But I am not buying it(not attacking you). The bottom line is if you do not know then DO NOT SHOOT. We do not let our youngins shoot. We teach our youngins. I do realize there are hunters out there that do not know what they are doing. I understandthat. But if you can not see then you can not get a drivers license?? I relize what I am saying is a little "Pie in the sky", but it just makes me sick when I see a grown man checking in a button buck that he shot in the a**, and what little meat there was is totally destroyed.

Deer hunting faces two major problems in the future. The first problem is the politicians who make the laws. They have no idea what they are doing, but they have the power.

The second problem is MONEY. Politicians see the deer herd as dollars, hunting heritage means nothing to them.

If we really cared about deer management then we would leave all the regulating to the biologists. But do you really think they would do any better?? I doubt it. Tom.

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If you pass on a bb and then kill a mature doe,how many future bucks did you save?

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If you pass on a bb and then kill a mature doe,how many future bucks did you save?

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Glad to see you realize it is a pie in the sky solution. There is nothing wrong with promoting the practice on a voluntary basis, but the PGC could not manage the herd if they made BB illegal.

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I'm starting to believe that there are a lot of guys that are just plain skeeered of having mature bucks in the woods they hunt.
There are isolated incidents of bucks attacking hunters, but it is very rare guys, so relax, OK?

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I admit it, I like mature bucks. I'm proud of it too!
I also admit to being proud to be an American, my whole life.
I said the Pledge of Allegiance every morning at school, andI always, and still, place my hand on my heart when the Star Spangled Banner plays.

You've outted me I guess...:D