(sorry if i ain't got this whole posting thing down yet but i keep trying to get format right, anyhow)

results so far Kinda interesting, but no suprising, at least on the deer hunting side, i do hunt bear up there when finances permit, however i did not know that there are less bear hunters up there now too, i guess i only noticed the difference in my area when buck season hit versus bear season, (I hunt up near the Bailey Run area in Potter County.)

I have a cabin and some land on the edge of 2G/2E so I'll be there.
My goal is to get a buck the first day so I can hunt grouse until fall turkey comes in.Then get a gobbler.I plan on hunting bear also.
Those are my plans and I'm sticking to it.
Even though gas prices are falling I know people who already made up their minds and aren't going to potter for deer this year.

you wouldnt happen to be the guy in field & stream talking about hunting camps are you??? there was a guy from montana that says he comes to PA every year.or was it bowhunter mag.? i just read them 20 min ago lol

Nope. I read the same article in Field & Stream the other day.
Not to change the subject, but I see your from Altoona. My family worked in the PRR shops there in the late 1800 & early 1900's .

PAWILDMAN,I LIKE WAY YOU TALK. people like us that have seen great hunting,well,this is not it.thats why i cant kill a doe or fawn.hunters that did not see good days,they have no way to understand that killing of all these deer will be end of the good hunting as we knew it.this is why i get so mad at DOUGE,he cant help himself, pgc/dcnr has him brainwashed.douge thinks we should just pick -up and go to ohio or somewhere else to hunt.he is not QUALIFIED to know what our hunting was and tradition ,family,friends that we had hunting in crews and at camp.it is crime to see what this OVERHARVEST OF OUR DOE/FAWNS has done to our heritage and kids coming up.oh well, enough said.glad to see many think like me also,but you have to been there and done that to have view you and others have on here.i wish i could sit ,one/one with hunters that are killing off doe and fawns and tell them how it was and why it happened on our great deer hunting we had.maybe, just maybe they would pass on doe.we can only hope..

Its like some of you said, sometimes its just not about getting a deer but getting away with some buddies.......getting a buck is an added bonus. Too bad the bonuses arent like they used to be.

Well I've been there and done that. At least since 1969. I remember the "good old days" of Pa rifle seasomn when you counted 100 shots before 9AM and there was orange in every direction and you typically saw 50-60 knee high deer bounce around the big woods like pinballs and you scoped em all hoping and praying that one of em had 3" of bone on their head or maybe even, oh my god, a Y sticking up. If you were lucky enough to see a buck you prayed that when you shot, it would fall before running past another hunter and getting shot again and claimed by the next hunter down the ridge.

Yep, those were the "good old days" andI thank god that they will likely never come back.

NO, I NEVER SAW WHAT YOU HAVE..in the early 50,s when i started to hunt, we had a respect for others. we never had problem you had, sorry to hear that.we never shot spikes,never. at times we would get 5 to 6 buck a day,all 4 points up to 10 points.this was with open sights also, no scopes.the bad times you talk about started here in 2g around 1999 when all tags came out.it seemed that meat was driving some,not taking care of deer herd.now,mostly all are sitting in a tree waiting to see a deer. a lot dont know how to track a buck.cant learn sitting in tree.yes, your right but bad times are NOW..

Sproulman,you're so far out in left field itisn't even funny.No one has brainwashed me.I simply know the differeance between good habitat and poor habitat.It's a shame you get angry with a guy because he sees no reason to complain.I had multiple opportunities to harvest deer last year from the first day of archery season to the last day of rifle season,many in areas where people said there were no deer.I live in 2G and i expect to have another great year with may deer sightings and another full freezer.

I don't know if you consider 3B north central but yet. We have excellent hunting there, I know of 3 different 3.5 y/o bucks that frequent the property and there are 4-5 2 year olds as well.