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I hope this takes effect soon MWX,,I also hope that they favor the deer. There is no need to harvest so many deer this time of year. Our club,including myself, only takes what we need...1 deer was taken so far this January. Not all CLUBS have the kill all mentality...I was a member of another club a few years back that allowed you 1 doe. That was fine with me..I have never seen so many deer on a piece of property..This was before "Earn a Buck KILL all does" took effect. It's a shame how bad things have become. I miss the days of seeing 20-30 deer during EACH season..

We will be our own demise.

Well, I always thought Bob McDowell was one of the good guy's. I think McGreevey is just doing his political thing by wanting to make his own appointment. Since I am on opposite sides on almost every issue with McGreevy, his new appointment scares me.

The problem is not specifically McDowell, or any one person there. The problem is that the majority of the members on the Fish and Game Council are representatives of the gun clubs in NJ. These are the people who like to be able to kill an unlimited number of deer, and have a long time to do it. Do you think they are going to vote to eliminate their extended gun seasons, and unlimited tags? The structure of how the regulations are devised needs to be changed. I'm not saying we need any anti-hunters on the Council, but the "if it's brown it's down" crowd needs to be fired.

Saturday, I had an elderly neighbor of mine call me at work to tell me there were several trucks parked at the fence to the property I post. She gave me the info and I called the local police and had them respond. He took their info and I'm going to sign complaints today on all seven of the poachers. However, after he left, they threatened to kill my elderly neighbor and burn her house down. She is a non-hunter, who I've had to work very hard on to get hunting, and hunters, portrayed in a positive light. It was working, until that. My point is that these extended seasons just invite this kind of thing. If the season was over, these guys would have stayed home. As it is, they have already hunted out their own spots, so they went looking for another. Cut back on the length of the season, and you will cut back many of these types of incidents.

They threatened her? I think more than trespassing is at hand NJ....

Lets see what Mcgreedy has in store...

NJB--I thought McDowell was one of the good guys also. I'm sure that McGreevey is an anti so it scares me a little that he is even interested in making changes so early in his tenure.

You're right about the old days with the seasons closed or winter bow only, the idiots would be at home watching football.

As far a deer harvest is concerned, I "only" took 1 7pt buck this season as my time was limited and I was hunting for QDM bucks in bow and passed on some spikes/does during ML. I personally can only use 1 or 2 deer a year for the meat as the wife wont eat it and all of my friends hunt so I cant even give it away.

Well--let's wait and see who is appointed on the Council but I hope that the attitudes change.

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My neighbor is so frightened that I doubt that she will take any action. She was even afraid to call me if anyone else parked there. I have caught, and taken the names of, 23 people trespassing on this one piece of property this year. I've missed alot of them too. My other property isn't as bad, just 4 poachers. These people are very brazen. They park at a fenced area covered with posted signs, and just go right in. I guess a trespassing charge is considered minor by them, so I've decided to add a little twist of my own. At the end of the season, I'm going to write a letter to the editor of a few local papers. Included will be a short letter about the criminals that are infiltrating the ranks of hunters in an effort to make us look bad. Then I plan on posting the names and offenses of each individual, and lable them an outlaw. I think I'll post it here too. Maybe a little embarassment will help curb some of this behavior.

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I am charging them with criminal trespass, and a few other things. I can get pretty crearitve the 2C, especially when there are firearms involved. Committing a crime while in possession of a firearm raises it to a whole new level.

I talked to Paul Tolerow at the show on Saturday and he seems to think that we are in for some chages with new people in charge. GOD I HOPE SO. I also got the feeling that they had no plan when they decided persue deer this way and this was all pure greed on the part of who ever decided to put this into law. I don't like to say "GUN CLUBS" because I am a member of one and we don't participate in this kind of irresponsible hunting. Its the mentality that gun hunters will kill all the deer in Jan. and Feb. Since all the bow hunters shoot the bucks before shotgun season. I have heard that a bunch of times. Hopefully some good will come this year and they stop this nonsense. Chris