Yep your right suger coat a dick & you'll get a suger coated dick.

If none of you get it that it's more than just killing a deer you are all lost.

This time of year you should be scouting ,looking for apple trees that are grown over,brush needs cut. You need to be clearing fence lines making brush piles for rabbits .Maybe you should be working some over time to buy that piece of land that you hunt.Where the hell do you think your kids will hunt ?

Hell I quit.

I deleted my own post. It was mean spirited, and nasty. Jim, please accept my apology for what I posted. You have a right to your opinions.

I love this topic, it cracks me up everytime I read something like this.... let me get this straight, hunting over a field of clover is baiting and baiting is "immoral/unethical"? Well, ANYBODY that says that hunting a deer near a food source must be one heck of a woodsman to ever kill a deer considering that he must me hunting on a 200 acre parking lot made of nothing but pavement. The woods are FULL of food sources, not just your oak/apple trees. Deer will roam around through the woods and graze on pretty much anything that they can so I wonder just where these guys are hunting if they don't think it is right to hunt deer by a food source.

Now, as far asa food-plot vs. a pile of corn.... this just cracks me up everytime I hear this as well. Those t.v. shows on the Outdoor Channel really sell food plots to the world. I love hearing guys talking about food plots and how deer from everywhere in the world flock to them and feed the entire day...... yeah, thats how it really works (sarcasim). The food plots on those t.v. shows you get your "info" from are nothing like the typical guys food plots. Try planting a food plot sometime and see if you get the results that you see on those wonderful television shows. Fact is a foodplot is just like any other agricultural field, tell me how a field of clover planted by a farmer is any different than a field of clove planted by a hunter. Oooo, thats right.... there is no difference.

It seems that alot of guys think that when a food plot is present deer just give up all their natural reactions and instincts. A deer is always cautious when entering any field, be it a food plot or corn field. Also, in any normal situation (not these giants chunks of entirely un-pressured land you see on t.v.) deer act the same way as a agricultural field, they enter at last light and the big bucks usually come out last.

Why plant a food plot, because it is another food source for the deer that will help all wildlife. It isn't a hunting technique, it is a way to give back to the outdoors.

I think that too many guys are judging food plots based on what they see on t.v. My grandma use to tell me "don't believe everything you see on t.v." and that speaks loud and true on here. Get out and base your facts on actually watching a food plot instead of seeing those great hunters on the ranchs in texas.

Here's my opinion, hunting over bait as in bear hunting in a thick woods such as Maine, I don't consider unethical. One time I went bear hunting for a whole week. The guide placed me in a variety of stands over looking a bucket of old donuts. Let me just say, I saw one skunk and one tweety bird, that was it... not even a moose. I'll never do it again. But I will say this much, it was challenging. I don't believe it was unethical hunting over a donut bucket.

In NY where I live and PA... I believe planting food plots is the same as putting a bag of corn everyday of the year that the food plot is also available for eating. You have to remember, a food plot only provides food certain times of year. My opinion, planting food plots to attract game is unethical. Hunting near a corn field where the corn is planted to feed humans or livestock, is not unethical.

Everyone is this country is entitled to an opinion.

good post.

LOL got 58 acres, don`t need to buy it already own it. Property lines are cut 8 feet wide all the way around. Gonna go re post it sat. Cut down some hemlock tree brances for the rabbits and deer. Also going to update the four towers we have on the property and take down our stands til next yr. So what`s your point?


PS Apples grow on trees which helps the enviroment. Corn also feeds turkeys , crows and other animals.

PSS Hope you don`t let your kids speak like that.

Pathetic as my life might seem thru your rose colored glasses I will never lower myself to your level of baiting a deer to kill it.
If you lack the skills or moral aptitude to kill a deer without baiting maybe you should take up golf!!!


And of course we all know what they say about opinions. []

Wow this one got some people in an uproar. I would have to say to each his own. Personally I view baiting as bringing an animal to a specific point for the purpose of killing it. Whereas a food plot is just that, a plot of food, usually and comfortable saying they are always larger than a bait pile. You have no control on where the deer is going to come into the plot but a bait pile controls where they will come. Just my opinion but does bring up a point I don't believe anyone has mentioned.

Well said Setter, and althoughitHAS been said several times here, The baiting proponents just choose to ignore it.

The difference in hunting over a food plot and baiting to me is that a food plot covers a large area and game can feed anywhere in that plot. Baiting is a specific spot where the game will feed. Not much sport in that.