Jimmy,

Live Free or Die baby.

Personally, I have never understood the motivation around making BO mandatory. I have read many excellent arguments being made here, especially where the decisions you make on wearing BO or not have a further potential impact than just upon yourself. That said, is it the government's responsibilty to protect us from ourselves? Not sure I can buy off on that one. Furthermore, what is the financial liability that the government or landowner has if someone is injured or killed by a gun wound on their property while hunting? Does BO legislation release these liabilities? I doubt it. Might help or hinder a case either way, but put the argument into the hands of an eager attorney, he'll get around it.

In NH, a guy actually sued NH Fish and Game after running into a Moose on I-93. The accident killed his wife. He claimed that it was NH F&G's responsibility to keep that moose out of the highway. During the trial, the judge asked him "sir, you hit that moose in a straight section of the interstate. You could see the animal well over a half mile away. Why didn't you avoid hitting it." The answer, "I thought it would move." A sidebar example not having anything directly to do with BO, but maybe an example of the type of lawsuits this legislation is meant to avoid.

It may lower the probability of the accident from happening in the first place, but if that's the purpose, there have been examples already made in this thread which do a better job of accomplishing that task.

I actually feel just as safe in full camo during spring Turkey season than I do in BO (which I do wear in my voluntary state of NH) deer hunting in the fall.

I've dragged on enough.

Cheers,

Dan

Did you ask a talking deer?Actually have seen some recent studies suggesting deer see more color than was previousely thought.
But that is not the point - making another law is. As I and several others keep pointing out in these threads, NYS VOLUNTARY compliance is already higher than virtually all states where it is mandatory!!!! This means more people are in violation of the mandatory requirementsthan do not choose to wear it in NY. I wear it in gun season here as do most( hence the high voluntary compliance rate)- make it mandatory and those who doen't see its value now will probably continue to not see its value. Plus I have to believe that, if made mandatory, therewill be the careless few who, not seeing orange, will automatically feel it is safe to shoot - not always the case! We currently also enjoy one of the lowest accident rates for hunting without mandatory BO!

There is another question I have asked thatthe proponents of mandatory BO never answer. Considering they are sure that somehow NY's high compliance rate can be pushed past every other states mandatory rate, they should have the statistics to answer. Question- whatare the current accident rates in the states that have moved to mandatory BO as compared to their rates before it was mandatory - has there been a significant, statistical lowering of the rate?
Anyone?

Steve

I see talking deer!!!!! There have been many tests over the last decade that prove deer only see certain colors. While I do not know the specific names of the tests, I'm sure they are out there. I see that no matter what your side on this is, people will do what they want reguardless of the risks. If Blaze Orange dosen't work or dosen't reduces the risks while hunting why do we dress our children in it if we take them out hunting or in the woods during the season????/

The point here is that we agree that Blaze Orange increases the safety of any hunter that is in the deer woods. Any nitwit should know that. The difference is I want the opportunity to make that decision for myself. I don't need or want another law.

There's enough laws already:

As a hunter I am told how old I have to be before I hunt, I am told I need Hunter Education, I am told when I canand cannot hunt, what I can and cannot hunt, what weapon I can use, what weapon I cannot use, what time I can hunt, what time I cannot hunt, what sex of the animal I can shoot, what sex I cannot shoot, how many I am allowed to shoot in a day, in a season, how many points a buck has to have to be legaland what regions I am allowed to shoot. All of the above are designed to be laws that are in the best interest of the (in this case) deer. Absolutely nothing wrong with that....

Another law that tells me I have to wear orange because it's in my best interest....thanks but no thanks.

I agree that there are more and more laws coming into effect every year. I really don't think that mandating blaze orange or a law that is similar will snowball into more restrictions for hunters. As you said, they tell us when to hunt and what to shoot, that's part of the game, and if you want to play you have to abide by the laws. It's no different than driving a car, while they don't tell us when or what to drive they tell us it's has to be inspected or insured, and have plates, and what side to drive on. While it does infringe upon some rights there has to be some type of structure behind it or it dosen't work. It's all about being safe, not limiting out rights and privledges. I understand your point of view that you do not want anymore laws nor do I but we have to make the best of it no matter what.

again why make it a law when so many are doing it anyway and how do you suggest enforceing it ? I'll bet you will be the first one whinning when the taxes go up

Why would taxes go up to mandated Blaze Orange? Go to Wal-mart and buy a 10 dollars vest. As for enforceing it, that would be tough, but needless to say it wouldn't be any different than any other law. There would be people who break it everyday like every othe law. Never been a whiner much, it cost money to live, taxes are part of life and people need to get used to that. Sure I don't want to pay more jst like you, but what ae you going to do? Since you don't know me it would be very inappropriate for you to pass judgement on me. Taxes are part of life, if you cannot afford it get another job, Stick to the topic, Blaze Orange in NY. Try to be a little professional in your replies and not make direct personal attacks on people you don't know. Computer muscles and poor attitudes like yours make this place hard for people with intelligence to make there opinion heard. Stop being cheap, or get a better job to pay your taxes and not worry about me.

I will not be brought into your own private hell about his topic.

I'm surprised that so many are pro BO. When I 1st opened this thread I was lookin for BO to get slammed big time. It's the law here in Delaware and Maryland. $25 fine here if you get caught with no BO hat on, even if your in your own stand! I think thats a bit much.

I hunt a lease farm and there are 2-3 guys who won't wear BO all the time(inc the land owner) using the excuse its private land,the deer won't spot me, etc...etc...bla...bla...Accidents still happen on private land and hunters will tresspass and kill your non BO Butt! I wear a BO cap even when I'm scouting. I don't trust anybody!

This is one of those laws where you gotta protect the hunters against the few dumm asses that will shoot at anything that moves. I personaly don't object to the law here - it just forces and protects everybody against the few who could pop a cap in your back/chest. If it saves a life,that could be a fellow hunter or even a friend - I say go for it. If your one of the guys who already wears BO, no harm no foul.

lou-louI am sticking to the topic of this thread . In order to enforce a law that we don't need the DEC will have to put more officers on the job , an orange patrol if you will , and in order to pay these officers the state will have to come up with the money somehow and you guessed it taxes