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RE: New York rifle bill passes: UPDATE
 

In 7 out of 10 hunting accidents in NY , the "victim" is not wearing hunter orange.

And you "dont think that mandatory BO would make much difference in NY"?

I'm thinking you are not thinking.

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RE: New York rifle bill passes: UPDATE
 

Yeah its pretty bad.
I own property, and I'm not going to look for another place to hunt. No thanks.
I've been doing just fine with my bow and shotgun. I really think that Ostego county should not be part of the change, just because of Oneonta's population. Or at least put a restriction on a certain area of it. Either way my land will be shotgun and bow only. Like it always has.

RE: New York rifle bill passes: UPDATE
 

While I am not opposed to wearing blaze orange in general, I think that when most hunters wear it some hunters relax and don't identify their target and what lies beyond it carefully. Their thinking is that if they don't see orange, it is safe to shoot. We don't have a mandatory blaze orange requirement in spring gobbler season, nor should we. A mature gobbler knows that blaze orange means "hunter." What we should have is criminal prosecution for shooting someone "in mistake for game." I will grant that there are some incidents that qualify as accidents, such as a bullet striking someone at some distance as a result of a ricochet. Such incidents are few and very far between. Most incidents in which one hunter shoots another result from carlessness.

I wrote a short story some years ago about a guy who wanted to get rid of a hunting partner that was having an affair with his wife. He shot the guy, plead guilty to shooting a person in mistake for game, paid a fine, and lost his license for ten years. Later, when someone suspected that he had killed his buddy intentionally, it was too late. Double jeopardy, you know.

I'll bet that if a person who killed another person while hunting had to do felony manslaughter time, we would have many more careful hunters. Felony convictions remove the individual's right to own firearms of any type. I am not sure we want someone who is this careless to own firearms anyway.

RE: New York rifle bill passes: UPDATE
 

New York state already has more people wearing blaze orange than most of the states that require it .

RE: New York rifle bill passes: UPDATE
 

is this a rifle bill post of blaze orange post???

anyway.. the local paper siad that the bill is now in front of the Governor (last Thursday) and he has 30 days (not counting Sundays) to sign, veto, or do nothing with the bill. It did mention however (opposite to my earlier understanding) that if he does nothing it will automatically be VETOED. Something to do with the legeslature not being in session - if it was in session and he did nothing, it's law, but since the lawmakers are on break it becomes vetoed with a non-sign. I think he will take the do nothing route.

PS - the blaze orange bill would be fine if the yahoos writing the darn thing would consult with some hunters - take away the "large"mandatory square inch rule (make it a hat or vest and/or more) and get the lanuage to leave out bow and turkey season - I try and wear orange now during gun - why wouldn't you want to???

RE: New York rifle bill passes: UPDATE
 

Are they mutually exclusive?

I'm pointing out the impropriety of comparing the relative safety risks of PA rifle season to a proposed NY rifle season - without blaze orange, its like comparing apples and, well, oranges.

RE: New York rifle bill passes: UPDATE
 

NYS voluntary compliance rate of BO is higher than most stateswhere mandatory. Nothing indicatesmaking it mandatory herewould make the rate of compliance any higher than other states. I have heard several studies also indicate no change in the accident rate in states that made it mandatory vs rate before when voluntary. If anyone has info different( verifiable - not opinion) I would be interested in hearing it.
Steve